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December 12, 2019 at 9:40 am in reply to: The isolation, the helplessness, the lack of energy, the anxiety, and the worry #34487Lauriso✘ Not a client
Hi Martin,
I don’t think I’ve gotten any diagnosis. I did the sleep apnea test and it came back negative.
This whole thing seems to have been kicked off with a crazy panic disorder episode I had for months. Clonazepman saved my life, I used for a month or so, then tapered off without any side effects.
But the whole process has done something to my sleep architecture. My brain just won’t sleep as it used to do.
My current plan is to either go see another sleep specialist or go straight for the hypnogram (brain wave measurement thing).
Lauriso✘ Not a clientThanks Deb, but I really don’t think I have anxiety about sleep. As I mentioned, the issues have persisted long before I even suspected my sleep was disturbed.
Lauriso✘ Not a clientLauriso✘ Not a clientThanks Deb, I’ve actually already posted my story here: https://insomniacoach.com/forums/topic/the-isolation-the-helplessness-the-lack-of-energy-the-anxiety-and-the-worry/
Usually I can fall asleep, but my sleep is either fragmented (often waking consciously or unconsciously, or being in a very shallow sleep state, kind of like half awake). This all started with an insane panic disorder episode (to the point of being suicidal). Clonazepam saved my life, I used it for a month, then tapered off with no side effects or the need to take it ever again. It may just be a coincidence, but that’s when the fatigue started. And it’s been almost three years now!
I don’t even know what ACT is though!
Lauriso✘ Not a clientAlso, is ACT effective for people who don’t really feel anxious about going to sleep? I can usually fall asleep without much worry. It’s just that my sleep is shallow and fragmented. I’ve sort of accepted that, while also searching for a solution, of course.
Moreover, I had fatigue issues for years without even suspecting my sleep was to blame, so any kind of anxiety over sleep wasn’t on the table. If my brain is on “high alert” when I sleep, then it has reasons of its own I’m not event aware of.
PS My previous comment and reply to Deb is still “awaiting moderation” for some reason and not showing ?
December 9, 2019 at 10:08 am in reply to: The isolation, the helplessness, the lack of energy, the anxiety, and the worry #34401Lauriso✘ Not a clientAlso, my doctor is recommending 100mg quetiapine to take early, at 9pm (so as not to feel so drowsy the next day). But I don’t think it addresses the issue! It might knock me out, but my sleep would probably still be fragmented! Sorry for the many comments, I just get new ideas all the time and want to share them to make a clearer picture of my situation :).
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December 9, 2019 at 9:50 am in reply to: The isolation, the helplessness, the lack of energy, the anxiety, and the worry #34399Lauriso✘ Not a clientOh, and it seems that if I take a benzodiazepine before bed, I DO sleep better. So that points to some subliminal/somatic anxiety, right? Like my brain is on high alert when I sleep ALTHOUGH I don’t consciously feel anxious. Really looking forward to new information what this is and how to solve it!
Lauriso✘ Not a clientGreetings,
I’m completely new to the forums, was just browsing and noticed something Deb wrote:
“With either type of insomnia, the problem is that even if consciously we think we are relaxed, the brain is still on high alert when we’re asleep. So that’s why we wake up and then can’t fall back asleep. In my case, that’s why I would have light sleep all night.”
This is what I’ve been suspecting too! Because I don’t consciously feel anxious or depressed. I remember taking Xanax for two nights once when it was really bad, and it seemed to help. Which would support the “subconscious anxiety” theory. But how can that even be?
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