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Marie-C.✓ Client
What a nice supportive exchange. I enjoyed reading it. Hope you are both well.
Marie-C.✓ ClientYes and I am really grateful for this exercise. 🙏
Marie-C.✓ ClientUsually I do yin yoga when I feel the temptation of taking a nap but this morning I was at work and my setup is not ideal in my office to do yoga. I have a cosy chair and blanket to relax when my neck hurt to much and this morning I couldn’t get out of it. I allowed myself to drift a little bit (it’s ok, I do a lot of hours that I don’t bill at work 😁).
My setup is not ideal on weekdays point. I can’t really feel at home in the place where I rent a room, it’s a tricky situation and I can’t imagine how I’d be able to sleep well in this arrangement. It’s something that I need to deal with soon.
I am rambling a little bit, I take the opportunity to write my thoughts, it motivates me to do some thinking. ☺️
Thank you for the opportunity!
Marie-C.✓ ClientHi Brad! If I understand correctly it is about which emotions your thoughts create in your body. Like stress can create neck tensions or stomach aches. There are a lot of YouTube videos with body scan exercises, maybe it could help you to understand it more?
Do I understand it correctly Martin?
Marie-C.✓ ClientI Miriam! I can’t say that my sleep have improved yet but I know that my problem solving mind is really combative and that it needs a lot of convincing. In the meantime I learn to enjoy more my wakefulness time and to live my nights in a more manageable ways. It also feels great to not being alone with my struggles anymore.
How is it going on your side of the world? How are you feeling these days?
Marie-C.✓ ClientI agree with Martin Spindledog! Good stuff there, really inspiring. Thanks a lot!
Marie-C.✓ ClientHi Spindledog!
Which kind of sleep struggle is the hardest to endure? The one where you were falling asleep late or the one that you currently trying to get rid of?Marie-C.✓ ClientSpindledog can I ask you to explain a little bit what is the problem that you talk about? What is your sleep situation more precisely?
Marie-C.✓ ClientYes I’ve also read what you are talking about and yes you are right about not checking time. In this course it’s more that if you find yourself getting upset or frustrated because you can sleep it’s better to get up and do something that you could enjoy. The way I understand it is that it would be ok to stay in bed if you enjoy it even while you are not sleeping. It’s to not associate sleep with stress and to not make to much of a big deal of it and to enjoy the time that you are awake instead of only think about sleep.
Marie-C.✓ ClientIf I understand correctly the course so far it’s all about not making any effort to make sleep happen. That trying to many different ways to make sleep happen makes our brain associate sleep with efforts and not that something that happens naturally. You can do things that you like and not that you feel that you NEED to do to make sleep happen.
Marie-C.✓ ClientYes Spindledog and I find myself feeling like a victim and it’s a really uncomfortable position. It’s hard to not trying to find somebody or something responsible for our suffering when we feel that we are powerless about something.
Marie-C.✓ ClientThanks a lot Spindledog! I enjoy to read your posts on the forum as well. You seem to be really interested in knowing everything on the subject of sleeping and I always like to deepen the questioning to learn more as well!
Marie-C.✓ ClientHi Sindledog!
I will offer you my theories, but I’m not a doctor, so I don’t really know:
I think anxiety may be genetic, but I don’t know if insomnia is. Unless the sleep issues have a physiological cause, perhaps? (Or, and that’s a far fetch idea, but could it be if the mother has insomnia during all of her pregnancy?)
But anyway, my way of looking at this in relation to the links I make between insomnia and my mother is not so much about a genes perspective as in learning by mimicry of how to live our lives. For example from the habit of seeing her being up during the night I would have integrated that not sleeping in order to find a solution to my problems is a possibility.
By being anxious by nature (from my 2 parents), the assimilation of the behavior could have been made more quickly and naturally than for a person having no genetic predisposition to anxiety.
I have insomnia since my teenage years, maybe it doesn’t apply so much for people developing it later in life. But again, maybe I am wrong… 🤔
Marie-C.✓ ClientHi healthy choice!
What are the issues that you’d like to talk about? Which kind of sleep problems are you struggling with? Mine are that I wake up during the night and often can’t fall back asleep. It happened many nights, so many many many nights!🙃I am doing the course and it helps to feel more detached from the obsession of thinking about it all the time and to enjoy the time that we are awake instead.
I hope that you’ll find what you need.
Marie-C.✓ ClientI Miriam!
I know the feeling, I struggle with insomnia since over 25 years and it so good to finally have hope about getting a better sleep. I recommend you the podcast if you haven’t listened to it yet, it so overwhelming (in a good way) to hear successful stories of people that went through the course. But I warn you that you may cry over the feeling of such hope. I know I do! 😉 Best wishes to you! -
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