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Yep I try not to nap too as it tends to affect my sleep. I woke up at 3.30 this moring ( went to bed at 10.30 so the 5 hour thing seems to be well ingrained). I'd like to at least get another hour. The thing is – I dont think I've ever slept more than 6 hours in my life so I suppose it would be a bit unrealistic of me to expect it to happen now.
Yes mate am doing some swimming and I also walk. I also did a fair amount of work around the place yesterday which tired me out so I had a reasonable sleep believe it or not. Unfortunately always broken bit nevertheless I had about 5 hrs again which is pretty good. And that was without meds – my goodness I never thought it would happen. Dont know if I could keep a sleep log – I usually cant really rememeber WHEN i actually get to sleep. Yes, I find that a nap in the evening is a dsiaster- the classic one is falling asleep in the chair in front of the TV! Yes in this country we have had a few olympic athletes who have been taking stillnox for sleep. Some have got addicted to it as after the fame and success I suppose , they cant come back to earth so they need something a litle more to get them rested.
Hi guys
4am in the morning again – but I actually woke up at four so I got 5 hours sleep -wow- hasnt happened for a very long time. All of these pills are unavailable in Australia guys (you have some GREAT drugs over there for sleep.) Phil have you tried Melatonin? It resets your body clock and may help with your sleep rhythm.
I am so pleased Phil that this Galapentin works for you – not available to us here either.
I actually am finding the acupuncture good – I also feel marvellous. They tend to work on your liver , kidneys and all that to get your body parts interacting with each other properly and all that. A little mysterious but dont mind –If it works— it just works ! I pay around $80 and get $35 back from my health fund so this is not too bad.
Owl we dont have Unisom either – but it appears to be a anti histamine ( as many sleeping pills purchased over the counter are ) I cannot take those at all – having dry mouth syndrome – it just makes me as dry as dry can be – and I am dry enough already !!!
But these do work for some as the older antihistamines have a sedating effect. Glad your exercising – as this is one of the main things you must do apparently.
Phil I must say that alcohol does not work for me . I always found as it is carb loaded that it acually has the opposite effect and tends to keep me awake. My Dad actually consumes around 3-4 beers most days and gets 10 HOURS SLEEP! I am so envious of him ! So I suppose it affects different people different ways.
Guys I have now completetely run out of Stillnox so tomorrow night will be trying to sleep without meds – wish me luck !
Yep it's four in the morning and as usual I'm awake – but stranely enough feel that I've rested – mind you I did take 1/2 a stillnox. I now have no more stillnox ( you cant take them for too long either ) and tonight will be the frist night without tablets. Yes I cannot go back to sleep after waking – used to be able to though.
Do you exercise with that high blood prressure ?- I assume you do.
Those tablets you mention will probably not be available in Australia for years – we are WAY behind you guys with pharmaceuticals. In our country drugs have to go through a RIGOROUS and long testing period before they are released to the public. – A real drag. You still cannot buy straight melatonin here unles you import it from the US.
Many thanks for replying- I do
have a lot of stuff to deal with but I think the acupuncture is putting me into a very rested frame of mind and I am feeling calmer and more positive during the day.
Hi Owl
It's 4am and I am up as per usual after waking at 3.30 which sems to be my pattern of late giving me a total of about 3 hours sleep (better than nothing) Yes I agree no meds is best but when your'e desperate ? Yes exercise is good – have been doing swimming which tires me out a little. I do do a lot of walking but being skinny and a little older (57) it tends to strip weight off me which I done want. Swimming and using foam weights and mild aerobic exercise in the pool is starting to have some effect. It is very inteesting that you mentioned a humidifier as I aslo have dry eyes ( no tears at all) as a result of multiple operations on my cornea and retina. This was also one of the main contrinbutors to my insomnia although I have suffered a little from mild insomnia over the years but not as bad as now. Also have started meditation (mindfulness ) half an hour before bed. This does calm you down a little when you have an over active mind. I also try not to use computers after about 7pm now and try and spend along period of time ( 2 hrs or so) trying to wind down before bed.
Isnt it a shame that ambien stops working after a time as I used to get the best sleep with it. Doctor wont give me any more of those. Thats of course the nature of benzos. Yes I do empty the bladder but have enlarged prostate which tends to make you want to go in the middle of the night.
Anyway – enough of my rambling- as usual Iwill go back to bed and try and rest a couple of hours. I'm trying acupuncture as well but you've rally got to find the right guy. The wise old chinese guys ( 70 and over If you can find them ) are the best I find.
I've listened to so many hypnosis tapes that I think I'm immune to their effects!!!!
Many thanks for your suggestions and hope you get some sleep tonight my friend
Michael B
Hi Phil
It's four in the morning and I've had my usual ( at the moment) 3 hours sleep – and that's with 1/2 a stillnox.
Lorezapam ( Ativan in Australia) is an excellent drug – I took it for a month and it was initially great giving me 4-5 hours sleep a night. It was also relieving the anxiety which also felt good. I loved it !
You need to know however that they are highly addictive and will only work for you for a short period of time. They are much more addictive than valium.
Alternatives are – take once or twice a week. Or you could take them for three weeks or so, wait a couple of months– then do it again.
You will also need taper off them ( slowly reduce the dose) If you are on them for an extended period of time. Otherwise you will get withdrawals.
You've probably found already if you've been taking them for a few weeks that they are not working as well.
There are a whole lot of anti depressants which are sedating that you could take _ vadoxan being one which I took for a while and it gave me some sleep. Expensive drug though.
I have tried just about everything – currently on Sillnox/ Zolpidem ( works very well for some ) but it only gives me about three hours sleep – better than nothing I suppose. I was actually hoping that it would totally knock me out – but it didn't. It may actually work well for you though. I only take 1/2 tablet.
lately am on temazapam- less addictive but effective hypnotic/ sleeping pill. This also gives me around 3 hours sleep.
Am trying meditation and acupuncture at the moment.
It's now 5.30 and I might see if I can have a quick rest before the sun comes up !
Cheers
Michael B
I've always had low level anxiety Martin( and had occasional insomnia)- The insomnia came on when I had to give up work when I had a corneal graft op in my left eye and two retinal detacments in the other. I could hardly see. I couldnt work – I loved my job and had little to do with myself during the day . Consqeuently the anxiety escalated- My sleep went down to 4 hours- then two hours – then nothing for a time..
cheers
Michael
