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Hi Martin. It's been years that I always thought of myself as a bad sleeper. I was always thinking that there is something wrong with me, maybe that my body was lacking in something like serotonin or whatever. Anti- depressants unfortunately made my sleep worse and as for the strong sleep aids such as Zopiclone & Trazadone etc, well they just masked the problem and I didn't want to admit it… I just had to take something in the form of a pill. The Sleep Training convinced me of the most important fact – I was not born with insomnia and I can overcome this and I have. Also learnt that it is normal to wake in the night, that is part of our DNA. Anyway, taking tablets (for me) was only reinforcing the thought that I could not overcome the problem myself – I was passing the responsibility.. so I stopped. Increasing my sleep drive is still really important, I must be tired when I get into bed and not sleep in the next morning. Before, I couldnt sleep even if I had absolutely nothing on my mind. The crooks of of it is.. I think I have gained a little more respect for myself by not munching on tablets before bed and if I woke in the night. Also, I would love to know if the 5 htp and Melatonin were preventing me from entering proper deep sleep? If anyone has any thoughts on these so called natural supplements, I would love to hear from you. Also sugar, I had a lot of sugar yesterday and my mind was a little more racy last night than it has been… Any thoughts anyone?
Hello all. I was taking Trazadone last year for my insomnia. My problem is not getting to sleep but staying asleep. I found Trazadone just made me feel too groggy the next day. And coming off it, Well, I had withdrawl symptoms… I shoukd have tapered my slowly. Since then I have been totally reliant on Melatonin, Valerian Root and also taking 5 HTP. The 5 HTP is meant to increase your serotonin, hence Increase Melatonin. Since joining this Forum, I have decided to quit the lot! I only take Magnesium Citrate before bed now. I've only gone two nights so far, but have slept much better and deeper. I still wake in the night maybe once or twice, and where as before if I woke in the night sometimes in desperation I would reach for the Valerian to relax me. I believe I have the mentality to think that a pill will help me. Therefore I am reinforcing the fact that I NEED pills to help me sleep which is wrong. I have a big day tomorrow and I know I will be under pressure tonight to sleep well, I hope I still have the sense to not take anything in the night if I feel I'm struggling. I've only decided to quit these supplements as they don't work and I wonder if they are actually stopping me from entering deep sleep. I'm no expert by any means… I will report back tomorrow.
Hi Martin – thank you for taking the time to reply…..it's a lonely feeling as you well know.
To be honest, I don't worry about anything in the night… EXCEPT about how I might feel the next day if I don't sleep well. When I wake, usually twice in the night, I do manage to go back off to sleep (not always straight away). Last night I woke at 2.30am and woke again at 6am and got up… But I just feel so tired even though I had that 3.5 hours after the second awakening. When I've slept well I feel great, so I know there's nothing wrong with me, it's just pure sleep deprevation that makes me feel awful. These are the supplements I take right before I go to bed at 10.30pm.
3 mg Melatonin
Magnesium Citrate
Valerian Root
1 x 200 mg of 5 HTP
If I'm honest, I am a sensitive, slightly worring character…maybe it's my subconscious mind waking me. But I understand it's normal to wake in the night, I just want quality sleep when I do sleep. If I've got something important on the next day, you can bet ya life I have rubbish sleep. Thanks again for your time.
