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I tried different types of hypnosis with different specialists. I had effect but it vanished after a few days in each case. They say this is how my brain function and nothing can be done. But I heard success stories when a wonam did not sleep for six days she solved her problem with hypnosis. I think it depends from person to person. We all are different.
I had experience with Coffea. Initially it helped me sleep for four hours (without any aids I do not sleep for several days and nights). Then it`s effectiveness decreased till 2 hours. Then I worked with one shaman (actually it was she who contacted me) and after her “treatment” coffea stopped working. I do not knnow about another homeopathy. As well as magnesium stopped help me relax and sleep. So now I do not know what to do. I asked her to correct her mistake and return everything back how it was but she does not do it.
Sleep specialists suggest me CBT-i. It could be possible for me it I could sleep at least three hours at night. But with zero sleep at night I do not know how to implement it. I have books and audiobooks about CBT-i. But I cannot do sleep restriction and stimulus control. That is my problem. I will die soon. This is what our specialists say.
Sorry for my bad English. I am not a native speaker.
I hope my post is helpful for you.
Hi. I did sleep study two years ago. Complete waste of time and money. It costed me 11.000 rubles (I live in Russia, not in a big town). It was my second sleepless night. I layed all night, with my eyes closed. In the middle of the night nurse came to check me and she was suprised that I do not sleep. Althoug in the morning when a sleep specialist came he told that I had a good 9 hours sleep!!! It is when I had zero sleep that night. I did not look to the data but instead brought them to another sleep specialist (although he is specializing in sleep apnea). He told that I had a very vierd night: in his interpretation I spent 6 hrs in mostly stage 2 with sth about 20!!! awakenings during the night. It is when I am sure I did not sleep a wink that night. After that I went home (of course in awful condition) and googled polysomnography and reviews and immidiately found several reviews saying the same things as me: we did not sleep a minute that night but sleep study showed that we slept several hours. I had a tough discussion with my doctor after this study because he believed it. But after I told him that when I was in hospital I was checked several times per each night if I sleep or not by hospital staff and they proved that I do not sleep during the night he started to maybe belive me that polysomnography may show mistakes. I believe that this technology may show mistakes (like in my case). I regret that I did this sleep study because now I have problems with doctors. They all ask me about sleep study. And they say that I sleep. And stop treating my insomnia. So I have now more problems after this sleep study. For our town 11.000 rubles is a lot so it is expensive procedure here in Russia. In our capital it is much more expensive. We have only two somnologists in our town. The one of them who agrees I have problems do not know what to do with me. He advises me to go to Moscow. But it is very hard in my condition. The other one (who did sleep study) advises nothing to me.
Hi Madmax,
I read this book. It’s not about my problem. I don’t have such problems as those described in this book. Sorry to say that. I have physiological excitation in my brain, that’t why I cannot sleep. I’m seing my doctor on a regular basis. And in my case it’s a shizoaffective disorder. My doctor says that he cannot do anything about my problem. How can we fix it ourselves? In my case it’s not a short-term problem, it lasts for several years. And still no fix is found…:(((…my doctor doesn’t want to think how my problem can be fixed. And I don’t have a medical background to resolve this problem on my own.
Good luck to you too!
Hi Madmax,
My fear of death don’t disturb my sleep. I’m sure in it. I don’t know why I cannot sleep. EEG shows that I have increased excitation in my brain. Our doctors don’t know how to help me…and I don’t know what to do. In my case it’s not a transitor insomnia. I suffer from it for long five years. And feel no improvements at all. Probably, I’ll die soon…:(((…I want to live so much, have a family, nice, lovely children…I don’t know what to do about my proble…
Best wishes to you!
Hi Madmax,
Thank you very much for understanding my situation and for your support. Unfortunately I cannot stay relaxed during the night when I don’t sleep. What should I do to stay relaxed? During day and during night? I AM!!! afraid of death and I’m pretty sure that this will happen pretty soon …:(((…I don’t know what can I do…I feel so much pain and I suffer so much. Sleeping pills don’t help me at all! My insomnia is not due to stress or anxiety. In my case the cause is physiological disbalance in my frontal lobes. This is all I know. But I have no idea how to correct this disbalance. I think I’ll die pretty soon and I think there is no cure for me in the whole World!!! I don`t know what to do with my extremely serious situation. I did a CBT-I course and it didn’t help me even a bit! As I understood I simply don’t have such problems that CBT-I deals with. So I have no idea what might be my next step. Herbs also don’t help me at all…I have no idea why…it’s sth special about my brain…but I don’t know what’s special about it why sleeping pills and herbs don’t work at all. I would love sleeping herbs start working again.
When you stop taking sleeping pills your insomnia is getting worse. This is a common rule.
Thank you once more time for contacting me here on the forum. I hope you are getting well pretty soon. I wish you all the best and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!! I wish you a good health!!!
Elena.
Hi Madmax,
Many thanks for your input. How did you manage to start sleeping for three hrs every night after having insomnia for several nights in a raw? I would be glad to have three hrs each night of sleep. Didn’t sleep at all for the last several nights. Feel that I can die in a couple of days. I also experience a full spectrum of health problems due to insomnia. Think I really can die in two days…or even sooner. Our doctors also cannot help me. I don’t know what to do. Martin suggests me to practice sleep restriction but how on Earth can I do it if I don’t sleep for several nights in a raw???!!! Probably die soon.. afraid to die… :(((…don’t know what to do…:(((.
Hello Martin,
I don`t feel an urge to sleep after several days without any sleep because my brain biochemistry got broken when I had a severe prolonged stress and a psychotic episod five years ago.
My doctor agrees on ANYTHING!!! that could fix my sleep problem at least partly. So, there are no problems from this side.
I have started fixing my destroyed body metabolism but the doctor who
s helping me with this said that its the most tough work and will take long time.All the best,
Elena.
I visited a good doctor and she said that the reason I feel so awfull physically after sleepless night is due to metobolism changed in my body after long time taking psychotropic drugs. I don’t know if traditional medicine can help me with this issue. We don’t have specilities here in Russia who can correct this problem. I talked to chinese doctor if he could help me with this issue. He said he can try. But disturbed metabolism is extremely difficult to treat as I understand.
I also read through your article about sleep restriction. You wtite that I don’t need to go to bed only if I feel sleepy. BUT!!! I don’t feel aleepy even after several days without sleep in a raw. And I don’t get tired even after several days maraphone without sleep. I feel awfull, exhausted, wanted to die, with suicidal thoughts but not tired in common sence. I figured out from the articles it is because my adenoside accumulation system is broken. It’s either don’t synthesied in a normal amont or get destroyed. Intense physical and mental activity help to increase level of adenosine VERY LITTLE!!! And even after intence physical and mental work I don’t feel tired and sleepy. My adenosine biochemistry id broken down and I have no idea how to restore it.
What do you think with these problems I have is it still possible to practice sleep restriction? I don’t know if I’ll manage it. If I could sleep at least a few hours a night I could definitely try sleep restriction.
When I was doing a Sleepio course (which I get for free) I found out that I don’t have such problems that they describe: I don’t drink coffee, tee, alcohol or other stimulants during the day. I sleep in a completely dark room, there is no noise during the night that can desturb me. But Sleepio don’t provide any support during the course. The only thing I can do in Sleepio is to talk to other users. They also organize live sessions with psychologists from time to time. But these specialists answer only most common problems. So I honestly don’t know if your insomnia coach can help me to fix my sleep problems, at least partly. I would be happy if you could help me. It’s also very expensive for me to take your course. I live in Russia, in a small town and I cannot work already for several years, so I don’t have much money. I hope you can understand this.
So, I don’t know what to do in my extremely difficult situation with my sleep…
Did you have clients who couldn’t sleep for several days in a raw and who benefited from your course.
I also wish to add that I don’t have anxiety and I don’t afraid of going to bed. I don’t have racing thoughts. The reason I cannot sleep is seriously disturbed biochemistry in my brain, i.e. excitatory mediators are in elevated levels and calming mediators in low level. And this disbalance doesn’t fix by itself already for several methods.
I also don’t sensitive to herbs, so they don’t help me to sleep at all!!!
Taking in mind all this information, could you still help me to fix my sleep at least partly. If I start to sleep at least for four hours a night constantly I would be very happy! My life was ruined by insomnia. I lost my job, family and many friends.
My family don’t want to support me at all!!! They just don’t give a shit about my condition and health problems…:(((…and if I’ll be doing a sleep restriction they won’t be supporting me for sure!
I’ll be waiting for your reply!
All the best ,
Elena.
I have problem practicing sleep restriction, i.e. I feel terrible after even a single sleepless night. I don’t know why. My doctors don’t know either. Very bad feelings in my body. So bad that I cry, can’t stand it. So, I spend days in my bad. Not all the time but still. And it’s getting worse and worse as my insomnia continues. Maybe I need to do medical tests to see what’s wrong in my body and correct the status before practicing sleep restriction.
“It’s still possible to practice sleep restriction even if you don’t sleep for several nights in a row ”
How in practice I should do it? Could you please describe it?
Best.
Hi Martin,
Thank you for your reply! I was waiting for it.
I cannot tell to my doctor about my suicidal thoughts. He’ll immidiately put me to hospital where I’ll get no help at all!!! The stuff in our psychiatric hospitals treat patients in a very bad manner. It’s even worse than prison! I was several times in all our hospitals with my terrible insomnia. Doctors in our hospitals are very bad specialists. They cannot help me at all! They only prescribe meds and meds that don’t help me at all.
I’m satisfyed with my doctor. He is one of the best in our town (I live in a small town). I also visited another doctors for second opinion. They told me the same things. All of them agree that I developed a very rare case of resistance to ALL!!! psychotropic meds at once!!! They do not know why this happened though.
Martin, I don’t have anxiety.
With Sleepio I didn’t get support at all! There’s only forum for users who can give some advises if they want and can. During the Sleepio course I didn’t get any support at all! I chose Sleepio for CBT-I because they offered it for me for free.
How on Earth sleep restriction can be practiced if I don’t sleep for several nights in a raw? I cannot get up from my bad after two nights without sleep! Because I’m exhausted! It’s not a transitor insomnia, I suffer from it already for several years!
Our doctors cannot give any other medical advice except of taking psychotropic drugs that don’t help me at all!
In addition, I don’t have problems that state Sleepio. The only exxeption is that I cannot adjust my room temperature. In my flat that’s impossible.
I’m looking forward for your reply!!!
With best wishes,
Elena.
Hi Martin.
My doctor can prescribe ONLY!!! meds that simply don’t work at all!
As I told you in email, I did Sleepio course from which I didn’t identiy any bad thoughts and behaviors that may interfere with my sleep. I completed all asteps of sleepio except of sleep restriction which I cannot do because I simly cannot sleep for a several nights in a raw!!! Does your CBT-i course any different from Sleepio? Or contest is the same? Can you please advise me what can I do in my extremely difficult situation? Maybe you know some specialist who can help me? Or give an advise? I don’t know what to do!!!…:(((…I tried everything I could!!!…nothing I tried helped me…:(((…I’m exhausted…:(((…I’m dying from my awful insomnia…:(((…I already did suicide twice…I have suicidic thoughts all the time…because I feel awfull without sleep…:(((…If I could have at least four hours a night I would be happy…I cannot work, cannot have a family, cannot have childrean due to this stupid insomnia!!! Can you help me in any way? I would be more than thankful to you!!!!!
Hi Martin,
This is me, Elena. I was talking to you by email. And I wrote you that I tried CBT-I with sleepio program. I couldn’t implement the sleep restriction into my routine. Because I can’t sleep for a few nights in a raw! Which mekes me exhausted. I literally spend all my days in a bed. So awful I feel without sleep. I started to feel so awful without sleep after psychotropic drugs for years. The latter destroyed all biochemistry in my brain. And I have no idea how to restore it. Other ideas from CBT-I I’m doing fine.
What can you advice me in this hard case? It would be VERY NICE yo get your ideas!
Elena
