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@Jaran – which podcasts do u mean? Will re-listen them.
@anmareta What kind of visualtion exercises do u do? Do you a link? Thanks a lot.
@anmareta and @Jaran – thanks a lot for your great posts. And yes, you – we – are not alone in this.
I too struggle alot. I know it is all about letting go the anxiety, go through it, facing it, accepting it aso. I know this all too well. But when I lay down in bed, it is as if almost forget what to do – that is nothing. But I keep resisting even if I “don”t” want to.
But we must keep going. Surrendering is not an option.
@Jaran Would u please elaborate a bit more about your sleep anxiety? How severe was/is it? How did it manifest? How did a typical night look like? How did u sleep with this anxiety?
Thanks in advance
I too struggle a lot. I just don’t manage to calm my anxiety. It is as I forget my “strategy” when going to bed. Then I ruminiate and be anxious during the day. All this gives me existential threats. I fear my anxiety, my anxious mind and what it could do to me.
My sleep window is 5,5 hours right now, since 8 days. But the arousal is too high. Perhaps one mistake I make is not going out of bed – will that starting tonight.
@anmareta Wow, what a great post – and what great poetry!
One question: how exactly do you face this fear?
@turtlestamp: would u mind telling a bit more of “befriending wakefulness”. It is a core element of Daniel Erichsen’s concept (see youtube). But I struggle a lot with it. I know it is the way to go, but knowing, as we … know, is one thing… I cannot read or watch tv (either in bed or not) in the middle of the night and just leave my anxiety behind. It is constantly in my backmind. And therefore, I cannot enjoy such things.
@anmareta: if I understand correctly, u took a drug for over 2 years for sleeping and still have it if necessary. So does this mean, the drug really helped. What did it to? Sedation? Bringing down the anxiety? What about thoughts?Thanks
Manfred
Had a a very rough night. My sleep anxiety is sooo high. It is really frustrating: I have tried and learned so much, but it is as if my mind wants to “test” me. They say anxiety is a protector, mine feels way more like a torturer.
Since last Monday, I have restricted my sleep window to 5,5 h. Worked well for 5 days, last days was very bad. I think I will also need to implement stimulus control.
I have some questions about SC: I know the theory behind and 1,5 y ago, it worked fine for me. But now, I fear that I will not be able to distract or enjoy mysalf while reading or watch a show. My anxiety won’t leave me (but of course come down – is this enough to expect?). But if my anxiety don’t leave me even if I get out of bed, how can I then ever return to bed this night? Or shall I not? But where does this lead to?
My deepest fear is existential: that my mind will “keep me form sleeping” and I will literally “kill” me in the end or at least destroy my life since I will get stuck, get depressed, loose everything aso. It is catastrophizing at its best. A mixture of anxiety, intrusive thoughts, OCD.
Great to hear it, congrats?
May I ask you: how did u deal (face) your sleep anxiety? Was your anxiety severe? I am struggling right now, because my sleep anxiety is back again and it is very high.
