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Same here folks. Often anxiety is overwhelming. It is as if I forget all the things I try to learn in order not to engage with my anxiety or anxious thoughts. I cannot think rationally and my fears cascade.
@caitlin johnston – since I too need to face my sleep anxiety, I would like to learn more from ur experience.
Would you allow Martin to give me your e-mail-address so I could contact u directly? Would be great!
Thanks in advance
Manfred
And one more question 🙂 : When did u listen to these affirmations? Before bed (out of bed or in bed)? Did u listen to them every day? Did u also listen to it while being out of bed during the night? Thanks!
Fantastic – thanks a lot!
Can u pls give me the title of the CBT book for anxiety?
All the best!!Thanks a lot for your reply, which is very valuable to me.
May I ask you a few more questions:
1. Can u provide the title/link of the “CBT book on anxiety” and the Youtube video about the affirmations?
2. So u told urself, when anxious, “I don’t care” – did u “fake it until u made it” or did u really believed that u don’t care. And how did u get to this point??
3. What was ur exact strategy with getting out of bed? When u were anxious or did u estimate the 30 minutes regardless how u felt? Did u stay in bed longer if u were not anxious?
4. Could u really enjoy being out of bed? What about ur anxious thoughts during that time and/or when u returned to bed?
5. How long did it take until u saw progress, until the anxiety lessened?Thanks A LOT
Manfred
Fantastic, congratulations. Your story relates very much to me. I too take meds in order to calm me down. But the anxiety is always lingering, so I need to face it.
May I ask you a couple of questions:
1. Did u too suffer from daytime (anticipatory) anxiety? And as u said, u too obsessed a lot about sleep?
2. As to the CBT-I regimen: How long was ur starting sleep window?
3. So u weren’t on meds when starting CBT-I?
4. Did u have to go out of bed often? What kind of activity did u do?
5. Most important: what about ur anxiety when u got out of bed? Could u really enjoy doing something when out of bed and did the anxiety leave then? What happened to the anxiety?Thanks in advance, all the best
Manfred
Thanks, @Jake.Thzmank you.
I know Daniel’s channel, great stuff. BUT: how to loose this anxiety? How to enjoy the night while being anxious??
Relating to ” mindfulness acceptance therapy for insomnia” – what exactly did u do? Did u see a counselor? Read a book? How long did u meditate each day and why did u talk to yourself during meditation? Or what else did u do?
Thank you!
Manfred
@Cathyo: I too struggle with big sleep anxiety. During the day, I have anticpatory anxiety about the next night.
How do u deal with the anxiety? Do u stay in bed? Do u keep a sleep window?
@Edgar – welcome to the club. Struggling with OCD around sleep anxiety.
Check out OCD recovery – website, youtube, instagram, facebook.
All the best
Manfred
@sleepykieran: Thanks for ur comment. May I ask: How exactly do u use these “mantras”? Do u write them down each day, do you say them loud (or in your head)? How often?
So u had 3 years of this anxiety. How was this time? How did u cope?
Thanks in advance – stay healthy
I knew you would say this 🙂 Problem is, “my” doctors here have no clue at all what CBT-I is. And when I tell, they just give an opinion based on “nothing” – they could just as good roll a dice.
I can relate so much. I am in a deep hole too although I work with a sleep restriction window of 5,5 hours – but “only for 10 days”. Most of the times, I get some sleep (guess 3 hours). My issue is clearly anxiety and hyperausal. Getting sometimes intrusive thoughts too.
I am trying mindfulness, acceptance aso. But deep down, I cannot accept and I do resist. I know this is the wrong way to go but I don’t know how to change it. And the vicious cycle goes on and on, since I now think that I will never overcome this anxiety / insomnia, what gives me even “existential threats” leading – of course – to more anxiety.
