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Well hello there Mperea
You are so kind to respond!
Thank you, these forums help me so much as well as constantly listening to Martins podcasts 😁
It is getting better … the struggle at night , especially in the past couple days I find that I’m not battling as much.
I’m starting to understand this approach better , and allowing the thoughts and feelings with more ease … I also moved my sleep window , because I was falling asleep wayyyy before my previous window . Now bedtime time is earlier and I’m up earlier, soooo, I just go to my 24 hr gym much
Earlier 🤗
It’s definitely a work in progress , BUT I SOOO believe in this ACT approach, and look forward to sleeping again!!!Is this something or anything you have seen in your other clients , waking so many times?
It seems my longest stretch of sleep is about 30-60 min
I even laid down one day for a nap, and told my husband , if I go past 30 min LET ME,I don’t care .. I was just so fatigued . Annnd, I was awake in 30
( this is not a daily thing)Is it possible my body is trained to do this ? Idk 🤷🏼♀️ it’s been such a pattern or habit that, that’s what it thinks it’s supposed to do?
Why can’t I just stay asleep ?There has still been no long stretches at night for over two months, if it’s medical, what’s next , they’ve checked hormone levels thyroid , sleep study
As much as I feel I’m handling wakefulness
By the 3rd &4th time of me getting up, it’s def brutalThanks for responding !
In answer to the question, as far as they can tell , there hasn’t been any reason for the constant awakenings , they just prescribe a different sleep aid , which I am so done with. It’s def frustrating, because it’s been a very long long time that I’ve had even had a 3-4 hour stretch of sleep
I do feel like I’m getting better
( most times) about my intentions , to be ok and accept my wakefulness…. Just love that feeling of falling asleep and waking , that’s when I know that I DID SLEEP!!Yes I suppose that’s exactly what I’m doing.
Whats so difficult is how many times Im waking up.
Sometimes I stay in bed, get on my iPad until sleepy then lay back down , sometimes I go out on the couch , Im really understanding much more now, that sleep cannot be the goal, but in learning to accept the wakefulness .
Im just super tired of getting up, I will keep pressing on .Welcome agrieser
I too appreciate all the comments, it can be so helpful and encouraging to us newbies.
And yes I agree
We Got this!!Wow ,
Up again , im feeling so defeated, broken and angry .
I have access to all your tools, but I’m obviously not getting it.How can I do so well in the day, and then nighttime comes, and it’s such a battle? I reread my posts from above and this is SO OPPOSITE😭
Sooo it seems obvious that Im not sitting with my feelings , or allowing them very well …..
How do I do the exercises at nighttime without it being such a trigger.?
I enjoy watching tv and listening to podcasts , but even that is getting old at 11,12:30 and now 245? I start. Falling asleep within 20-30 min, only to wake again and again
I’ve gone a lot of weeks now on very little sleep.
Is this because it’s been over 20 years and my body is so used to this?
This has, however been the longest stretch without at least one decent 4-5hr sleep night , it’s tough sometimes to not wanna get some sleep aid, but I’ve been off them now for over two months and certainly dont wanna go down that road again.
For me it’s like daytime can’t get here fast enough, at least then I feel better ,
Once I get going , AND only after I get over feeling sorry for myself, for yet another tough nightP.s
I may sound like Im ALWAYS positive Pam … annnd that is so not true!
I was so grateful to have found this course, and that’s why I’m here … I do have days, sometimes weeks , where I’m just sooo overwhelmed ,that it just really gets me down ….I would love nothing more ,than to be at a place, that Im not nightly struggling with this same old thing… plus I’d love to go to bed and wake there in the morning😌
Thank you Martin for your reply
For me I was doing the sleep window because of the amount of time I was staying in bed awake…. Annnd ….. i for sure ,because it was less time in bed , thought that I would drift off to sleep …. hoping that I would get a few hours of sleep all together😭 ( Im learning that’s not the plan ha)
I would first do the AWAKE exercise,( before the couch or tv) but I’m learning that this actually may be a trigger for me 🤷🏼♀️
Because of the many different things I have done over the years with insomnia it is another ,( albeit very different )exercise , that Im to do when I wake…. And I’ve done lotsIf this makes me a bit anxious I then go to the couch to watch something on my iPad , and to get away from my struggling … I will sometimes stay in my bed and watch something there until Im sleepy.
It also seems to give me 2 hrs together of sleep when I just stay on the couch rather than go back to bed
The three good things I have no problem with for I have so many things daily I am grateful for !!
Daytime …I don’t seem to have many bad thoughts, I truly love my life.. i keep busy, doing the things I want to do, exercise, walk, have my grandson over , I am generally a very positive person.
As far as my values, I absolutely love all people , so my goal for ‘any’ day is to find anyone at all that I can encourage … that fills my tank😀
I have been doing the NOW exercises when I’m just sitting later in day .
Soooo I’ve said it before over the years,I’ve struggled with this, when people ask ,how I do it, with so little sleep?
Before I found your program
I would say
‘ I have insomnia, there are so many worse things in life I could be dealing with, so I’m grateful it’s just sleep ‘Haha I wish I knew
I so enjoy my book ,and my shows, and …. because my day is over by 4 that’s when I am excited and look forward to just sitingBut…. then I start dozing off by 6 or 7
Sooo…. if I want to keep that sleep drive going .. im assuming I need to get up, do something else to avoid crashing??Or is this still my ploy for hopes of more sleep when bedtime comes?
This is why I’m here😳😂
I need guidanceHoradedormir
Oh that’s so wonderful!! How I love reading about people’s journeys, and where they are… it’s so encouraging.
I keep pressing on,although it does get to me at times, that Im not further along, but your stories keep me going!I wish you the very best and lots of great continued sleep😀
ChefDevo1776
Hey thanks for replying, I so appreciate your words ! They are very encouraging and so kind.This may sound like a dumb question …but HOW do you focus on the fear? I really do try and sit with it, but , I don’t really feel anything.. sometimes I get angry ,only because I feel like I’m not doing it right, or that I should feel better , or more relaxed while sitting with it🤷🏼♀️
Martin, it’s always wonderful when you chime in as well! THANKYOU for all that you have put into this program , it’s wonderful to see ALL the people you have helped 😊
Ohhh you are so incredibly kind to me ..thank you sincerely!!
Annnd YES that helped a lot!!Those are exactly my thoughts , as I sit there.. and like you shared ,( my feelings are so similar) ‘ sit with this 😦 anxiety ???
and why is this a good idea??? haha’Yes logically this all just makes sense, which I have been excited and encouraged since day 1… a totally different approach , something I truly got excited about , so couldn’t wait to start .
The comment about learning based on experience, is very helpful as well ,and will motivate me to keep going , and it’s def gotten worse … sooo that too is actually encouraging ,
I just need to keep practicing and hang in there!
Thanks so much for responding, helps me not to feel so alone.💕Question ?
I just listened to a mindful gardener on allowing annnd idk if this is a trigger or Im not fully able to relax and let go.. but I actually start to get anxious, maybe it’s all the years of off and on mediations I would listen to trying to fall asleep ?Why does it seem so hard ? Im almost embarrassed that I can’t seem to get this.. I will practice the NOW , even if I’m just going through the motions
( faking it till I get it) it will eventually work, right?I almost feel stupid, yet Im also wanting to allow kindness to myself , especially because this is ALL so new to me…
Oh thankyou for taking the time to further explain the acceptance and allowing technique.. cuz I’m just not connecting the dots.
Sooo…. I will def go and look that up on YouTube!
I totally understand that the more you think on them the more they’re going to show up, it just sounds waaay easier than it is ,for sure.Also , as much as I think ‘I am’ getting it, I apparently am not … at all😣
For me , every night I go to bed, Im Almost expectant of a great night of sleep because there’s been so little, that Im for sure going to just ‘pass out’ for hours, only to wake after an hour!!So back to the drawing board I’ll go, heading to YouTube rn
Thank you for your encouragement, it truly helps ☺️
