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Quote:Ugh, sorry to hear that Tommy.
Do these relapses just hit at random, or do you see a particular pattern to them?
Seems to be random. It's getting better though, so all is good. I've always just been a night person, to be honest I prefer being up at night – it's when I'm at my best. It's just these days I'm really busy during the day so can't just crash out and snooze in the afternoon like I used to so if I'm up all night that's it, I'm up all day too.
Some nights I'm absolutely shattered and -need- to sleep at around 9-10 PM. Other nights I'm still wide awake at 5 AM.
Quote:Hey Tommy, wow that's a long stint of no sleep, hope you managed to get some not too long after your prev post.Just a thought as I've been on and off citalopram quite a few times and can definitely confirm that in my case it is v stimulating for the first 3-4 weeks during which time it actually worsens my insomnia significsntly before the therapeutic effect kicks in. As with all the SSRI's insomnia cam be a common side effect -I haven't once managed to cheat it!- and can make you feel like giving up on it but persevering for at least 6 weeks might just be worthwhile, (esp. If you struggle with anxiety issues) until the side effects have had time to subside. I really hope you get somewhere with it soon and you start to see some improvement.Yeah that's what I'm thinking, I seemed to be the reverse though, for the first few weeks – it helped tremendously. I was going to bed early almost every night and sleeping. Been on them 2 months now and having these random relapses now and again.
I will say though that recently I've
A) Quit drugs
😎 Quit alcohol
C) Quit painkillers – told my doctor I don't want codeine anymore
That's all in the last month, so it'll probably just be stopping all that suddenly messing with my system.
But nevermind, at least I'm spending my nights productively!
Just an update, it seems the damage is permanent, because it's gotten no better. I know i'm stupid not going AE but I've been too busy and I can still walk OK albeit a little limp and there's no pain so will just wait 'til my GP appointment.
Time to admit I'm not as young as I used to be and can't keep going around behaving like I'm still a teenager! 😆
Quit drink/drugs/smoking/unhealthy eating & living for real and for good now, as I'm suspected that's what caused it, as a couple of days before the initial illness/twitching/vomiting I was testing a free sample of a 'research chemical' (alpha-Methyltryptamine). Scary thing is, it's 100% legal, and freely available to buy on the high street, I got it it from The Forum in Sheffield, I often pop there as I used to spend hundreds a week in there and now and again he gives me free samples to test.
Now I'm just grateful I'm feeling good and the damage isn't as bad as it could have been. I can't lift my foot or toes up, I can live with that. At least I'm still alive, and can actually still walk.
I'm going back to college, working on my e-community, got a nice new little flat lined up, time to grow up and drag myself out of my teens 8 years after I should have 😆
Nope, I've got an appointment with my GP in a couple of weeks anyway to get another citalopram prescription and what not so will bring it up with her then.
But seems somehow, my week of vomitting and sleeping it off has mysteriously damaged some nerves somewhere resulting in 'foot drop', also commonly known as 'diabetes foot' where the nerves become damaged/weakened to the point you lose the function to be able to lift your foot or toes up as the muslces are too weak.
It was fine 4 days ago. I just woke up 3 days ago and suddenly the symptom was there.
'Martin' wrote:Well, I actually wrote about Citalopram causing insomnia over on the blog a year or so ago: http://www.insomnialand.com/blog/this-antidepressant-may-be-the-cause-of-your-insomnia/
I'd definitely be interested in hearing more about your experience with the drug.
Ah thanks for this, Martin I'll give it a read! Interesting, and food for thought.
I'm in a pretty OK routine at the moment. Average sleepy time now is about 4 AM. Which is a lot better than the 2 nighters I used to pull then have a nap in the afternoon the day after.
Amitriptaline sent me haywire, I'd wake up feeling groggy, I'd suffer from sleep apnea when I did finally drop, I'd be knackered and just not be able to settle etc etc.
Seems so far I've been lucky with Citalopram, but I haven't been on it that long yet so.. will definitely keep you informed after another few weeks of being on it!
'Tommy wrote:You know, that could quite possibly be true regarding asking children what they want to be! I can see that being true!
When I was a younger I wanted to be a pub landlord, but that option just isn't viable in a global economic recession, ESPECIALLY in this country where landlords are over-taxed; forced to pay too much rent; where pub patrons are oppressed by an interfering state (you can't do this in pubs, you can't do that in pubs, you've done it for 600 years but ohh no you can't do it now because we say so) to the point that nobody even bothers going to pubs any more. Over 40 pubs a day are closing everyday now, so it'd just be financial suicide to buy one.
One thing I've never really done is travel. I think I've left this country twice in my entire life. Growing up and maturing a bit and shaking off my fear of what goes on beyond these little borders has made me embrace the idea of travelling more and seeing the world, that's something I'd like to do someday. Just travel to loads of different countries on different continents.
Ha, reading back on this. I actually got my dream of being a pub landlord – and hated it! Stressful, not half as fun as you'd think it'd be, and balancing the books is just about impossible.
The pub was busy enough and happy enough. I actually ran it the same way I would an online community strangely enough, strange how you can take learned skills and apply them elsewhere huh?
But the expenditure just exceeded the revenue. Brewery wanted to put us on a 40% cap instead of the 20% cap we were on (and even at the 20% cap customers complained it was too expensive, I warned the brewery!) but of course, they shoved us on it.. the pub closed. Just couldn't afford to run it, even after a busy Saturday night, threw people out at 3-4 AM finally, counted the takings, didn't even cover half of the week's expenditure.
So now back to my original question. What do I REALLY want to do with my life? Back to the drawing back, new dream coming soon!
Welcome, Hyp! Good to see you 🙂
Insomnia can drag us down sometimes. It makes you feel groggy and zombie-like, and really does have a negative effect on both your life and general health & well-being. I'm sorry that the construction is what set your insomnia off.
If you need any advice, tips feel free to read some of the posts in the Insomnia section and of course make a post yourself explaining exactly what you go through and maybe we can help you out, tell you what has helped for us in your situation!
Enjoy your stay
Welcome to the community, Robskie!
Quite a few of our ladies have suffered the same, so I'm sure you'll fit right in and maybe find some tips and advice that helped the others!
I'm the same, I prefer animals to people. I'm a vegetarian, a huge animal lover (and no, not in the way you're thinking Martin !!), I've got a Jack Russell and two cats, 3 rats and soon I'll have a ferret joining my little happy pack!
Welcome to the site, Lynzi!
I noticed you say you don't get out of the house much, I wonder if this could be linked to the insomnia.
I say this because back before I had my job, my insomnia was at its height. I didn't go out much, was stuck in all the time. This, I believe, can cause stress, and sleeplesness.
Once I got my job, for the first couple of weeks I still had insomnia, then I moved into the pub to take over as the manager, by time the pub closed I was so tired I soon started to manage to fall asleep at 3-4 AM and get a good 4-5 hour sleep before I had to be up again.
Which was actually quite good for me.
Of course the pub shut down in January, leaving me jobles again, and insomnia has crept back as again, I don't go out much any more.
So I really do wonder if, being stuck in and going stir crazy, is linked to insomnia.
Well I've always pondered the question, is my depression caused by my insomnia, or my insomnia caused by the depression?
I'm on Citalopram at the moment, and symptoms of depression are waiving, but my insomnia has come back with a vengeance. Which is OK actually at the moment, as I stay up all night developing.
So I'm starting to come to the conclusion that insomnia was not caused by depression.
Whether it's the other way around, I don't think I'll find that answer out. If I do need to really sleep, my doctor prescribed me with diazapam.
'yamerias' wrote:OK, another “little bit of fun” thing, I wondered what some of the stranger things you have done have been when you hvae not slept too much!
I'll kick it off and look forward to seeing what other things people have done!
I know I need more sleep when I'm reading the track listing to the Dirty Dancing OST and read that Hungry Eyes was sung by Eric CARTMAN
I know I need more sleep when I try to put a t-shirt on my pillows.
I know I need more sleep when I dream about sleeping!
'Jane' wrote:I don't use social networking sites. I don't like them. I'd rather use forums. Tommy is there any update yet on FC? And Martin are you planning on a shoutbox or a chat room here? I presume it would all be members only?
Didn't want to post it as I don't want to spam on Martin's sites, but it'll be live in 2 weeks hence my increased internet presence as of late. Going to the pub less and spending more time online to re-motivate myself to spend time on forums and chats haha.
Sorry it's taken so long, but I've been busy with my 'real life' job and not only that, I'd rather have taken my time and do it properly and launch at full function, rather than rush it and launch with half the site 'under construction'. It's a big project, I'm even paying a co-developer from rentacoder to help with a lot of the features as they're just beyond my own capability, but he only wanted £200up front, and a further £300 when the site is live and I'm satisfied.
But yes, FC is returning. The launch date was June-July, but thanks to taking on an extra developer to delegate to and do the more difficult tasks his estimate is anywhere between the 21st and 29th of this month.
It'll be a hybrid of a social network, and a traditional chat site, it sounds like it might be difficult to balance, but the way its set out & laid out is actually quite simple. The site has been designed ground-up for user friendliness, ease of use and simplicity.
If you go to the URL in my profile, Jane, there's a page there to the Facebook group where I've started updating on development, there are screenshots. Alternatively PM me and I'll give you the demo username & password to have a gander.
'Martin' wrote:If you're not offensive, you're not worth knowing, in my opinion
Ah there is the flip side though. If you're too offensive like me, nobody WANTS to know you! Ha ha ha.
http://www.facebook.com/tommytoxen
My social network site will be going live in 2 weeks, so I shall be using others a lot less as I concentrate on my own.
Well, I must admit, after watching “Ancient Aliens” on the History channel, I've become a bit of an Ancient Astronaut Theorist myself haha.
I bought all of his 12th Planet books, which I'm reading one by one.
I'm also currently reading a translated version of the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Erich Von Daniken is another author, of which I'm going to get around to. His book, Chariots of the Gods, arrived just last week but I'm only a 1/4 way through Sitchen's books at the moment.
