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Hello. I purchased the course in November and still have another week. I am going slow and really taking my time to implement everything. That said, here are your answers more directly:
1) I will go through most of the weeks lesson rather quickly. Don’t quote me here but I would say two days and less than an hour for each week. Then I take 1-3 weeks to work on each lesson. You have six months, so why rush? He gives you the tool but then you need to learn how to use it… Also, see what works for you and what doesn’t.
2) I am on the self guided and its been great. Martin is really good at responding in the forum. I will say I had one call with him which was helpful for my situation.
My final tip… It was a full year from when I found this program until I paid for the program and that was a mistake. The free course is good but its just the tip of the iceberg. I wish I had invested in myself sooner.
I am at the strange point in my journey where I no longer worry about not sleeping until it happens to me. I have accepted that I will forever have bad nights (as I always have), but its how I react to it that I need to work on.
To answer your question though about the balance, I think, at least this course, is not really about “curing” anything but more about building skills that will last forever so that when tough times do arise (and they will), you have skills to fall back on.
So if your intent on seeking out information is to build skills that will help you navigate the difficult time/thoughts, then I think its good to pursue.
If you seek this information out because you’re fixated on getting a certain amount or type of sleep, then it could do damage. I think its the intent behind the pursuit. I have done both… At one point I was obsessed and hearing the podcasts was almost anxiety inducing. “How could anyone accept this?!”
For instance, my hyper-arousal at night is no longer about if I will sleep, it’s almost always about other stressors in life. Then, I get upset and annoyed that I am not sleeping. Where it used to be that I got worked up in anticipation of whether or not I will sleep.
This course has helped me to live life all day long (and most nights) in a positive space.– I know that nothing is wrong with me. I no longer think about sleep and I know from experience that I will make up sleep following a bad night (or sometimes after multiple bad ones).
I am not sure if that helps or makes sense, but I tried lol.
I suppose I would lay there relaxed or read.
I never get anxious anymore about sleep. Its almost always other external factors that keep me from sleeping. My mind racing, thinking about work, other stressors, etc. Then when I cant sleep I turn to the medication.
I see your point though. I am currently uncomfortable with taking the medication– this is a never ending cycle if I don’t break it. If I break it, then in time I will overcome it. There will still be discomfort but it will be overshadowed by doing what matters to me.
Now, its just implementing it.
Thank you, Martin. I feel like I just need to be done with it, but I also fear the result (event though it could be a good one). One other time I told myself I wouldn’t no take it made things bad for me for a couple weeks. Just the anticipation of telling myself its not an option made things worse. I know your course said said growth requires discomfort (or something along those lines), but its hard when what you have been doing “works.”
My spouse doesn’t see the big deal in me taking it from time to time but says if I don’t want to take it, then don’t. She reassures me that I don’t need it. I have a lot of support no matter what I do. The ball is in my court… just need to make the move and accept everyone has difficult nights.
I have operated for a while on a NO NAP policy. That said, we have been getting hammered with snow the last few days and I decided over the weekend to read my book. Naturally I got sleepy, and was thoroughly enjoying myself just being calm and relaxing. I let myself put down my book and snooze. For me, I think the fact that I dozed off for a bit with zero thought was good for me. I didn’t have any influence on my sleep that night either– I slept great.
I have been having sleep issues since September 2024. If its one thing that I learned, and something that Martin regularly states, its that this isn’t a linear thing. There are lots of ups and downs. This journey has taken me almost a year and a half and I still have episodes of poor sleep– its normal– for all people. I held off on taking the course until I learned to accept it– once it became the new normal for me, I felt as though I was ready for the course.
There was a lot of value in me pursuing something big while going through this. I succeeded through all the struggle and it helped me realize that the worry was all for nothing.
I was like you before– after a bad night, all I could think about is if the next would be the same. One day I realized I didn’t care… It very well could be great or I may have issues. The next day would still go on. Once you can say “oh well” to a bad night, things will begin falling into place.
They happen… I had a night of poor sleep also despite having a fantastic evening with friends. Take the good with the bad I suppose. Tonight is a new night and you will likely sleep well with the sleep drive last night added. I am remaining positive on my evening as well. And if its another rough night, so be it.
I am about the same age and so never had issues until about a year or so ago. I will tell you your story is inspiring to me… I have been taking an OTC sleep aid about 3-4 nights per week and I am struggling to just be done with it. 10 nights is awesome and shows some good discipline.
Perhaps its just because its just different and you’re looking to see if there is a difference? The change itself caused a sleep disruption.
I also HATE getting out of bed. That said, if I feel myself tossing and turning or getting upset, sometimes even just ten minutes sitting on the couch literally looking into the dark room resets my brain. Then I return and its a fresh start. Best of luck.
Then stick to it, enjoy your news if it makes you happy- that’s important!
With time, sleep drive should build. I sometimes have three nights of little sleep, then I feel confident Ill get some good sleep.
I have been told yes. I typically only need it 2 to 4 times per week and I feel shameful taking it. I do think my use of them is purely psychological. I feel they better my ability for sleep but if I could go back I NEVER would have taken them. I understand its a personal choice but I would say work the program without. Its made it worse for me. I fear if I dont take them on tough nights I won’t sleep at all. That’s the last part for me is tossing them and working through the program without the crutch.
At one point I had a dr tell me to take 10mg melatonin, magnesium glycinate, and doxylamine succinate (unisom). They said i could take them all together…. I never did that but that was before I understood all of this.
Good luck to you. We will all get through this. The toughest battles are the ones we fight (or accept lol) alone.
I like to read– recently got a kindle and that’s been great. Amazon sells some nice dim reading lights that clip to your book. I also sometimes just lay there comfortably and try to enjoy resting. Life is chaotic at times so I remind myself that there are times I would live to just lay somewhere quiet and comfortable. I only get out of bed if I am uncomfortable.
I am far from recovered and still need to work on full acceptance but I will say I never panic anymore if I cant sleep. My issue is with stopping reliance on taking a OTC sleep aid. I cave and take it by midnight if I am not asleep – – this still happens a few nights per week.
