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I think I need to recognize urges and attempts to apply control and mental efforts at night, instead of just letting everything be. I need to learn to step away from the control panel in my head during the night time.
I submitted a claim to my HSA, but I don’t think they will approve, since they wanted me to indicate the resident state for the business I paid to. Well, I indicated my state with the sleep school address, we will see how they react to London, WA.
Pam1129 – I can really relate to your post about staying positive, even if it means lying to your spouse about your sleep. During the past 6-8 weeks I knew recovering would be a long, slow process, but am always hopeful I will learn to sleep well again. My husband seemed to be getting more obsessed about my sleep than I was, asking every morning in a depressing tone, how was my sleep? Finally, I just decided to say it was fine, I’m getting better. It is great you are getting 5-7 hours of sleep. I wanted to ask, is it a solid 5-7 hours or does it feel like light sleep or fragmented? I’m beginning my 5th week of ACT and feel like the first half of the night my sleep is fairly light, not even sure if I’m sleeping and waking a couple times, going to bed at 10pm, wide awake about 12am, but going back to sleep, then waking again about 3am-4am, but eventually getting back to sleep until 6am-6:30am. I honestly can’t tell how many hours I am sleeping now, but it feels like at least 6 hours.
Nik – what do you mean by strange hypnotic nights? In the beginning I had nights with a lot of dreams. I bet whatever they are, they will go away on their own.
Yes it sounds like you’ll be learning to be more aware of what you’re thinking. For me it was always “catching myself in the act of struggling” or doing something to try to fall asleep. When I would recognize that, I’d smile and say to myself “Well there you go again.” Then I could relax and go back to acceptance.
Steve – I contacted my insurance company and they said they would not pay for someone out of network. England was not in their network! I should have done that first thing but instead I asked the office for a statement which took FOREVER and several reminders.
Crazy how things like that are totally completely gone for me (bad dreams, doing something to TRY and fall asleep) yet I still fall back into deep holes like I am now. Been skimming through some posts on here that I’ve missed over the last couple of weeks. Seems like a lot of people are very much on the right track. But while I’ve read a lot of good words and advice, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t see it all before, 10 times over. For me insomnia just seems like a never ending cycle that at this point (and I know, this is bad to say) I truly sometimes think I may never get over it for good. Sure I’ve improved tremendously but to be back at such a bad place in the last week is beyond heartbreaking and just makes me feel hopeless. Weds night I slept well in my 11:30p-6a window, but last night I woke at 5am, way too early. I know this is all part of adapting to the window again and eventually more good nights will happen, but it’s just all the same game to me. WHEN am I finally going to break through? Deb you were right the other day that while I’ve improved, the sleep anxiety is still very much there in me, underneath it all, just waiting to be retriggered by an off night or two of sleep.
Question – do any of ever stop getting the email from here announcing new posts? I’ve gotten kicked out of that again so have to come here directly to see if there any new posts.
Deb – What you said about learning how to rest, even during the day is so important. I used to try and push through my fatigue in the afternoon, but now since I am not working I decided why not take advantage of this and just rest and relax? I never nap but just try and shut down for a bit and usually find a short guided meditation to listen to and practice mindfulness, and then just lay quietly for another 10-15 minutes, feel your body soften and then remember that feeling when you get into bed at night.
burn – thank you for sharing the information from your session with everyone. I know for probably the first 2 weeks of ACT I was overthinking the process and the exercises, which probably contributed to some zero sleep nights. I guess the key is to recognize the present moment but not dwell in it, let the thoughts drift away. Sometimes it is difficult because I might get an epiphany about something. That is great during the day, but frustrating at night.
Strangely, I subscribed to this thread but NEVER had any updates. Maybe because I am not a client, I don’t know.
Deb, I think it is similar to my case, I need to catch myself in attempt of doing something for sleep to happen, even my excessive attempts of doing nothing!
Nik – I suggest resting more than just a few minutes. If you can do it at work then lean back in your chair for 20-30 minutes and just completely relax, not thinking about anything in particular. At home you could lay down for a half hour. This would give you a more substantial feel for it.
Yes deb I have to come here now to check. No more emails even tho it says I’m subscribed.
With regards to my anxiety I just don’t know what to do deb, Bc when I get into a good phase let me tell you I am fine! No bad worries during the day or anything. It’s as if insomnia never existed at some points. Hard to believe I know, but true. What happens is when a bad night comes, then all the worries start flooding back in a bit.
Mac,
In the Guy Meadows book, this thought is nicknamed ‘sabotage’ thought. Perhaps, your should read the book that we are discussing here.
I’ve read his book. My first book ever on insomnia. I ended up getting rid of the book when I thought I was over this for food. Perhaps you could give me a brief summary on this “Sabatoge” thought if you’d be so kind?
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