[SleepyKel]

I am new to the forum. I have had insomnia off and on for years. Its only gotten worse post-menopause. I have just started listening to the Insomnia Coach Podcast and I am hopeful. The past couple of nights I have been implementing the “no clock” policy, which is really hard to do and I have noticed a difference already. I am looking forward to learning more and stop trying to force sleep.

[hiker]

Hi SleepyKel, I think you are off to a good start—not that it’s an automatic progression to improved sleep every night—but not gauging your progress by a clock makes sense. Ditto the podcast. And you are already onto not trying to force sleep.

I am a man, so I cannot speak to post-menopause. I can say that my wife is at that stage in life, and she sleeps well, i.e. post-menopause is not an automatic impediment to sleep.

This is not to minimize what you’re going through, and even when you sleep well fairly regularly, no doubt there will be nights when it’s not so good. I can say that no matter the reason, it does not have to mean you are sliding back into the abyss or whatever. I think if we can accept that okay, I didn’t sleep too well last night or even the last few nights, I’m pretty hammered right now, it can lead to better sleep if we can avoid freaking out and just let sleep happen.

Easier said than done, and hard to think straight when tired, I know. Anyway, I think you are on the right track.

[Martin Reed]

Thanks for sharing — both of you!

How are you getting on, SleepyKel? Have you been implementing any other changes besides the “no clock watching”?

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