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  • #29825
    bnevins
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      1) Testosterone therapy—did it improve your sleep?   The people selling it claim it can

      2) DREEM headband—-use sound based on EEG to help you stay in deep sleep.  Sold in Europe, not in USA yet.

      3) EBB:  headband freezes your brain to help you sleep better.

      #29915
      Martin Reed
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        Unfortunately, I suspect you aren’t going to get many (if any) responses because there isn’t much evidence to support these three things as effective treatments for chronic insomnia (whereas CBT-I has overwhelming evidence to support its effectiveness).

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        #29929
        bnevins
        ✘ Not a client

          I did not ask about clinical trials, but personal experience.

          However, there is evidence.

           

          dreem white paper

          https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/rythm/Whitepaper+October+2018/whitepaper_dreem_12.03.2019_eng_V2+.pdf

           

          EBB article

          https://www.ebbsleep.com/clinical-studies/

          #29935
          Martin Reed
          ★ Admin

            The dreem whitepaper mentions only one published clinical study and that study was funded by Rythm — the company that manufactures dreem — and seven of the study’s nine authors are employees of Rythm. So, I’d argue there’s some conflict of interest there.

            The EBB “clinical studies” page lists three studies. The first one listed has nothing to do with the EBB headband, the second study was partially funded by EBB (and one of its authors receives royalties from EBB), and the third study was supported by EBB.

            If I search the National Institutes of Health database, I get the following results:

            Search query “dreem” in the title of a study and the word “sleep” anywhere in the study: 0 results

            Search query “EBB” in the title of a study and the word “sleep” anywhere in the study: 2 results (neither of which are related to the EBB headband)

            Search query “cognitive behavioral therapy” in the title of a study and the word “sleep” anywhere in the study: 321 results

            If we search Google Scholar, we get the following results:

            Search query “dreem insomnia” – 55 results

            Search query “ebb insomnia” – 4,400 results (few are related to the Ebb sleep device)

            Search query “cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia” – 136,000 results

            I know you mentioned that you didn’t ask about clinical trials, but without scientific evidence, we cannot consider something to be effective — and, if we are spending money on something, surely we want to spend money on something that has evidence to support its effectiveness.

            With all this being said, if anyone has tried dreem or EBB, I’d love to hear from them in this thread.

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