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  • #51623
    Dutch
    ✘ Not a client

      I go to bed at 1:00am but wake up at 4:30 am. I take .05 of clonazapam before bed though I think Im going through tolerance withdrawl. I heard the coach mention I can still do CBTI even while on meds. I am now tapering off the meds. Though still only getting 3 to 4 hours of sleep in my window.

      #51696
      hiker
      ✓ Client

        Hi Dutch, I am not a doctor or a pharmacist. However, I did take several types of sleep meds over many years. I found it is possible to find this one or that which can help you get over a really tough stretch of insomnia, for a while. And then you build up a tolerance, and sometimes they can flip and contribute to insomnia. Some drugs do require a tapering in and off to avoid withdrawal side effects. I remember taking clonazapam sp, but can’t recall where it is on the spectrum. Pharmacists are the best bet for solid information.

        I also would get desperate and keep shopping for more meds, sometimes for weeks with nothing working. And thinking about it, and getting more desperate.

        I did take antidepressants, some of which can help sleep temporarily. Their best benefit in the long term is to help stave off the darkness which understandably can show up when we cannot sleep and feel overwhelmed by life’s demands. But a drug which will guarantee good sleep for the duration? If it existed, you would see people lined up for blocks.

        So what’s the answer? I am glad to hear you are doing CBTi, hopefully with the likes of Martin. Ultimately it comes down to how we think about the mess we’re in. And this is hard to remember and believe when you are so hammered you can’t think straight. True anyway.

        Perhaps it would help if you can preface your thoughts with “I’m having the thought that….” as in:

        1. ” I’m having the thought that my life is ruined because I’m so tired;”

        as opposed to

        2. “My life is ruined because I’m so tired….my life is ruined.”

        It may not seem right now that there’s any difference between 1 and 2. But there is, and I think you will find in your clearer moments that it’s a really big difference.

        Take care, Dutch. You are not alone in this.

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