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Hello Kelly!
You are doing fine, in fact you are doing very well because it shows you can sleep without aids. What you need now is building self-confidence in sleeping on your own. At this moment what is your level of confidence? Do you think these statements are true to you? “I’m not a normal sleeper, I’m not like everyone else.”, “Other people can go to bed and sleep, I just don’t or I’m unsure.” If these ring true to you, then it’s your mindset that’s keeping you from sleeping. It’s only when you reach the stage where you are 100% sure of your sleep ability, you start sleeping well again. Continue doing your cbt-i techniques of going and getting out of bed at regular times as you build your confidence. I recommend you go to youtube and search for this video “cure your chronic insomnia by effortless sleep method” by yousquared. A lot of universal truths about sleep there in that short 10 min video.You are a critical junction of the recovery path and building confidence is of utmost importance. Therefore don’t go down the rabbit hole of seeking cures, trying endlessly to find “something” else other than your own ability. That will only take you further deeper into the hole of insomnia as it undermines your own confidence. The story you tell about your sleep *will* eventually come true. Therefore if you don’t believe you can sleep unaided or are unsure, it becomes self-fulfilling.
Do only these two things:
1. Continue keeping to a regular bed time schedule.
2. Stop trying so hard to sleep = being okay with wakefulness = building self confidence = believing you can sleep on your own.You will start sleeping more as your confidence improves. Be patient and persevere. Good luck!
Hello Bee!
Great to hear you’ve made progress! You are finally experiencing true natural sleep which is surely better than 8 hours of drugged sleep. I read your post and the thing is this: *The story you tell yourself about your sleep WILL come true*. Which is exactly what’s happening in your case. Go to youtube and search for “Cure chronic insomnia by the effortless method” by Yousquared based on the book “The effortless sleep method” by Sasha Stephens. It is just a 10 minute video but is full of the universal truths about sleep. Ultimately you want to get to the stage where you have complete confidence in your ability to sleep, much like every normal sleeper. Keep going and you will get there! Good luck!Very good video on youtube on insomnia based on the book “An effortless sleeping method” by Sasha Stephens. Search “Cure Chronic Insomnia with The Effortless Sleep Method” by YouSquared. Only 10 mins long but full of universal truths about sleep. The ultimate clutch to get you sleeping and indeed also for everyone else is to “believe in the ability to sleep, all on your own”. All recovery paths no matter how different they look will take you to this place eventually.
Hi Sophia
Very typical story of a path toward recovery. I told you after sleeping well, you will find it harder and taking longer to sleep at first or you might wake earlier than you want to. All these are manifestations of sleeping well because of reduced sleep drive. Just continue the regular getting in and out of bed at consistent times, and personally, I wouldn’t get out of bed when I cant sleep, I just lay there and let sleep catch me. Good luck.Hello…
People who have sleep anxiety and trouble sleeping like yourself typically share an identical recovery path. So your case is not unique or uncommon. The most important factors to sleeping well are always:
1. Go to and get out of bed at consistent times with no sleeping in between. Start by allowing 6 hours and slowly increase that once you feel ready.
2. Develop the correct mindset. I suggest you read the success stories section to find out what other did. This is very important because mindset determines your behaviors and attitudes.Like everyone else who has gone through and overcome insomnia, you can do this! Good luck.
Hello
So sorry to hear about your condition. You need just two things to sleep well again:
1. Go to and get out of bed at consistent times. No sleeping in between. Start at allowing for 6 hours then slowly increase that once you are sleeping more and feel you are ready.
2. Develop the right mindset. Go to the success stories section, learn how others dealt with their problems and ultimately how they got out of the vicious cycle of insomnia. Things like letting go of control, not caring how you sleep and being non jugdmental about your sleep. Very very important. You must have the right mindset because it is what shapes your behaviors and attitude towards sleep. Good luck! Everyone can overcome insomnia including you.Hello Anne-Claire
What an excellent insight and so very inspiring. Insomnia isn’t always a bad thing, if anyone is willing to look at it from another angle, not only do you get over it, it also teaches you some very important things about life in general. Things like acceptance, letting go of control, patience, perseverance and ultimately, compassion not only toward oneself but also toward others. Keep on inspiring!Thanks for posting. You should enjoy your time awake and not feel like you are being forced to do something if it isnt something you enjoy. There is no fixed rule for what you can or cannot do in bed or out of bed when you cant sleep. Because nothing can generate sleepiness or cause you to fall asleep except being awake long enough which builds sleep drive. Good luck!
Hello Sophia!
Great to hear from you again and that you are sleeping better. What you are going through is extremely common to everyone during this part of the recovery, thoughts like “What if my insomnia comes back??” The answer is always acknowledgement and acceptance whatever your mind wants to tell you about. Worried you cant sleep because you neighbour dog keeps barking? Accept. Worried drinking too much water before bed causing you to go to toilet more often therefore affecting your sleep? Accept. Your mind will come up with a million excuses of how your sleep will be affected. Your response: Whatever man, I accept these thoughts. Just accept whatever your mind tries to warn you about. Never fight or try to escape from your thoughts because this is what your brain is wired to do, keeping you safe from any potential threats like not sleeping. You cant avoid your thoughts but you can choose whether to believe it or not. Do you have to believe every single thing your mind keeps warning you about? Well, no because most of them are likely future events and who knows what can happen in the future. You live in the present moment so try to enjoy your day as much as you can, do things centred on your personal enjoyment and development, not sleep. Tell yourself you will deal with any sleep disruption WHEN it happens, not before, IF it happens. But you are much more likely to sleep if you follow the rule of allowing enough wakefulness before going to bed so these thoughts and the associated anxiety will start become fleeting (pops into your head then pops back out again because you pay less and less attention to them) then disappear completely. Then if you do sleep poorly occasionally, which is normal because everyone gets poor nights once in a while, continue your day as if nothing happen and be non jugdmental about it. Your sleep should recover the next day if you do nothing. You are doing great and slowly getting there. Hope to hear about your success story soon! Keep it up!Hello and greetings!
The choice should based on your preference. Between the two, do you prefer one over the other? Then take your preferred choice because in reality, what you do if you can’t sleep has no effect on your sleep at all and therefore is of no consequence. The idea is to take your mind off sleep and the associated anxiety because most people with sleep problems often get anxious when they can’t sleep. It also helps condition the mind to not view night time wakefulness as a threat and by spending most time in bed actually asleep rather awake helps rebuild that bed-sleep association. As a recovered person, I am personally tell you it isn’t what you do or don’t do that makes you sleep or not. It is usually the fear or anxiety of not sleeping that is keeping you up. Once you conquer that fear, whatever you do don’t matter anymore and you will find yourself waking up less, taking lesser time to fall back asleep if you do until you don’t need to leave the bed anymore to never remembering you ever woke at all! Good luck and I hope you find your way out!Hello and thank you for sharing your post. As I read it, I couldn’t help but wonder why you even need to do srt in the first place?? I think the main culprit of your 3 am awakenings is your weekend sleep-ins! You could have eliminated that and then continue going to and getting out of bed at consistent times *every day*, including weekends and the result might have been very different.
How much can you recall how your sleeping pattern was before srt? Try adding up all your sleeptimes for the entire week, including your weekend sleep-ins then divide that by seven to get your average daily sleep time. Add 30 minutes to that and that is the amount of time you should allot for sleep. By fixing your out of bed time, you then arrive at the earliest time you should go to bed. Develop the habit of going to and getting out of bed at regular times and eliminate all sleep-ins and naps. Do this for a few weeks and see what happens. Then whenever you are ready, you can slowly allot more time for sleep by going to bed 15 minutes earlier while keeping out of bed time the same. Keep doing that very gently until you reach your desired sleep duration. Good luck!
Hello Monica,
Your mindset and possibly poor sleep hygiene such as going to bed much earlier and/or getting out of bed at inconsistent times could be the key reasons you are stuck in this. Go to the success stories section and find out what others did and the kind of thought work that went into their efforts which finally freed them from their dilemmas. Mindset is very important here. You must have the right mindset to finally free yourself from your struggle with sleep. Essentially you may need to do the complete opposite of what seems logical when confronted with this problem. Spending less time in bed, stop chasing sleep and stop saying “I need my sleep, or else etc etc”. Desperate, frightened people desiring more sleep won’t sleep. You get it when you don’t want it, ie, being more willing to spend more time awake and not being afraid of not sleeping anymore. Everyone’s journey is very similar but learning what others went through may shorten the learning curve a lot as long as you are open to lesson and willing to tolerate some discomfort during the journey. Good luck!
Great story! What makes it even better is giving back after recovery, to help and inspire others on their journeys towards a better place where they find relief and sleep much better. Thank you for sharing.
Hello
I am sorry you experienced a poor night sleep. Everyone gets them once in a while. Not going to write a long post here but all I can say is you can only get out of your insomnia by developing the right mindset. It is the key to everything as mindset determines your attitude and behavior towards sleep. Read the success stories here and find out what they did or more importantly what they thought to get past their insomnia. Everyone has what it takes to overcome their insomnia and you too! Good luck and may you find relief soon!Hello Carissa,
It’s great to hear you are making some progress in your sleep after following CBT-i techniques. During this stage, it is very common and very human to want to protect your progress so far and you will find yourself going all out in making attempts to protect future sleep. My advice to you is please DON’T. I caution you against taking these steps, because you are starting to obsess over sleep and are falling back into the hole of insomnia by giving it more attention. Remember insomnia feeds on attention and obessesion. Before you had sleeping problems, did you already have your pet? Yet you still slept fine, didn’t you? So your pet isn’t the problem, your obessesion over sleep is. It is when you have given up ALL efforts and truly not caring how you sleep anymore that you start making further progress. When you reach this stage, you begin to realise that night time sleeplessness isn’t a problem anymore, being more open to and willing to experience sleeplessness. Then you start sleeping really well! That’s when you know you are truly recovered. Good luck!
