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Hi Mr. Sandman, thank you again for another super helpful msg. It is very clear to be that these thoughts are just thoughts, nothing more nothing less. What I am going through now is: like you I have these thoughts before I go to bed (day time is already much better, I hardly think about it), I am still trying to find my own method, to either gently brush the thoughts away or like you suggest too, ignoring them. You have used both methods? There is a saying that by ignoring them, they will constantly be coming back. Therefore I am slightly confused of how to deal with the thoughts. I know it’s not the sleep itself, but finding the the best way to deal with the difficult thoughts is what I am going through! Anyway, I guess bottom line, let’s not be tangled in them! Good night to you all!
Hi Chee, thank you for hour very frank comments! I totally agree with you! Yes I am aware I am almost a bit obsessed with this sleep thing, and even after a strings of relatively good nights, I am still a bit worried. Perhaps it is a bit of ptsd? After completed from Martin’s course, I kind of stopped looking at this forum for a while and it’s only after last week’s bad nights, I started coming back to this forum and I guess looking for some assurance. You are right, if I don’t rise above these thoughts, it will never leave me alone! I just have to not give damn about my sleep for while! Thank you!
Could you please try again? I don’t seem to be able to find your reply! I slept well last night:)
Hi Mr. Sandman, thank you so much to you and your wife for these posts! Your wife’s post has helped me immensely through the last 6 months. I have had three fairly difficult nights this week, ( after a 6 months of slow but steady ‘recovery’ ). Just as I am starting to doubt myself again, your post has arrived!! Thank you!!!! When convenient, could you just elaborate on the methods you use to observe/acknowledge your difficult thoughts every night when you first start your sleep? I have come through most of the journey already and I understand the theory. I have been sleeping around 6 hours every night for over five months, The last three days has been difficult, as I am suddenly finding it a little hard to accept the difficult thoughts after not be able to fall asleep after 30min or so. Thank you for your help! Best, lynnbet
Congratulations Skyeisarose! I have also completed the course two weeks ago. I am sleeping relatively well now and with perhaps one difficult night every week or so. While I think this idea of letting go with the struggle is the essential backbone of this course, did you not use CBT-i at all at the initial stages? I don’t feel as free as you do at the moment yet, but I am curious as to when/what was your turning point, so you could be so free from these unreal “ catastrophic” sleep thoughts. Thanks and congrats again!
Hi Tess, thank you for the update! Truly encouraging! I am going through the recovery( very slowly, and experiencing set backs every now and then). Small question from me: from what I understand from your husband’s journey, it seems that the memory of this experience will never be erased from him. But in the future, the thought of insomnia will no longer generate the same negative impact on him anymore. Is this correct? At one stage I was hoping that in time, we will forget about it. After reading you update about you and your husband even freely talk about insomnia now, it seems that we will never forget it, however we will become stronger and in time, learn how to deal with this bully rather then forget about it. Is this the correct understanding? Thank you Tess!
Hi everyone, happy to report that after 3 days of sleep restriction, while I am still getting the difficult nights, the night after seems to be always fairly ok. A little comfort I guess! Is this your experiences too? Best wishes to everyone!
Hi Michael, I am new to this course too. Have been listening to all the podcasts and the all positive recovery stories really help me. I am also the hard to fall asleep type. My fourth month now. Like for many others, I think this course will help us!!! Good luck!
Thank you Chee! Despite a few difficult night per month, My hours are kinda ok now, I guess it just takes time to overcome this concern and to have a strict sleep window is very important. I really appreciate your positive support on this forum! Thank you!
My insomnia first appeared this January. Because of traveling, I really only started Cbt-I this month. The catastrophic thoughts having to deal with this for the rest of my life really scares me. Reading and listening to Martin’s success stories really helps me and I really would like to hear from a successful case like yourself, how long will this fear of sleep last! Thanks buddy!
Hi Chee, thanks for your suggestions! I see you have recovered from insomnia. Could you please share with me how long did it take you to really get rid of the ‘fear’ of sleeping! In the last 14 days of cdt-I( not so much stimulus control needed), I have been doing ok, with a couple of difficult nights<4 hrs. Even then, I could still sense this slight ‘fear’ every time going to bed. I really need to do 30min of mental confidence building every night before bed. Is this normal? Sending my best wishes!
Thank you Jay, tutlestamp and Robb. It is very important for sufferers like me to read positive threads like yours! I am at the start of CBT-I and have had few good days, but last night was tough. To be unwillingly monitoring my own sleep and be feeling the anxiety just before falling asleep and staring the ceiling…. It’s tough! But your writing has given me some hope that there is light at the end of tunnel. I am fully aware that road to recovery is going to be long and tough, but at least there IS a chance of healing! Thank you Martin for the platform and videos too! Take care guys!
Yes Laura. Out of my 8 good nights now, I have already encountered a bad ish night. Took me a good hour to fall asleep on one of the nights. I think it was because as I was doing ok, I was already hoping to achieve consistency in this momentum. Mistake! I think we still very much have to treat sleep as a bonus every night and only then, there is going to be less pressure and less anxiety. We just have let TIME to dilute this mind anxiety. I trust there will be less and less of these thoughts over time! It is so nice to “running mates” on this journey. Good luck to you Laura!
Well done Laura and thank you for sharing your experience! My insomnia started in January too and I totally understand the anxiety towards sleep! Like you, I have been watching/listening to Martina’s incredible videos and interviews. They have helped me too! While I am getting 5-6 hours of sleep already every night( for the last 5 nights), I find that there is still a little bit of sleep anxiety lingering on after 9pm every night! I guess this just takes time to overcome. Thanks to Martin’s work, we are all on the right track now!
