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Anything that doesn't have Clint Eastwood, Gary Cooper or John Wayne in it is over-rated!
Welcome to Insomnia Land, Christine 🙂
My GP has referred me to a sleep clinic, could you not ask your GP about your options in that way?
As for your bird problem, dress up as a cat and dance around their tree going “ooga booga booga!” and they should fly away.
'Martin' wrote on '31:Yup. He did Bat Out of Hell as the third song, too. Madness.
Jeez, TBH I thought he'd be dead by now from a conorary or something, he was a big bloke back in the day!
Good music though, I'll never deny him that.
I probably shouldn't say this, what with my punk reputation to keep and all, but one of the best gigs I went to, was,……………….. Status Quo at Sheffield City Hall >.>
Nobody is eating my goat! Nobody even touches my goat without my permission! If you want to 'touch' him it's £5.
'yamerias' wrote on '30:Hey guys,
sounded like you had a blast! Apologies for my absence, I've been back in hospital with my heart.
With any luck I'll be here for the next chat.
Yeah hope you're OK! Big hugs from Insomnia Forum!
Hi UliHarp, I'm in the same boat as you I reckon. I'd say they're related, in someway.
I'm seeing a specialist soon, to figure out what the best course of meds are etc. I *think* my insomnia was triggered by depression, and as for solitude, I like being alone sometimes, I love my space – but like you, that then makes me depressed, and I want to get out, and that starts a vicious cycle. Being stuck in the same 4 walls drives me insane sometimes.
I went undiagnosed for years because I refused to admit I had a problem. For years my self-destructive behaviour has lost me jobs, opportunities, friends, money and a lot of good things that were going for me once upon a time. People gave up on me, and I don't blame them. I started relying on alcohol and other substances more and more until it finally caught up with me in March. When I came out of intensive care I swore I was going to sort myself out for good this time so didn't run away as soon as the GP referred me to a psychiatrist this time, I actually went.
And I have to say, my life's a lot better for it, but obviously I'm typing this at 3.37 AM my sleeping hasn't gotten any better 😉
'MarinaFournier' wrote on '26:That's awful! Four, and nothing? Oy! I don't think I've ever tried even doubling up on something when it wasn't working for me. I do understand how knackering extended periods of little to no sleep can be–have had a few months-long stretches of those.
Are the headaches from the lack of sleep, or a separate issue? In our families (our poor son!) migraines and sinus headaches abound. Mostly, cold fronts/lows moving through get us coming, but my MiL gets them on the way out.
Well, if punk is your way of life, than you won't know Kate Rusby, a folksinger from Yorkshire. I'm a folkie, myself, so that's why I know her work. Haven't seen her come through in years, alas.
I have friends who are RealAle'ers, but I loathe the taste of any amount of hops. Country wines, meads, ciders, fine wines, singlemalts, liqueurs, yes: ale, lager, most stout, beer, etc–not my cuppa. I do like Yorkshire tea, though.
Well it's all linked in, insomnia/depression/tension/stress. They're chronic tension headaches so it's all tied in.
And yeah, sometimes you just can't beat a nice cup of Yorkshire tea!
Well thing is I've suffered from Insomnia since 13, so for 14 years, and, I really don't know when I started suffering from depression, I didn't have the best of childhoods so I COULD have suffered from it before, or, the depression could have been caused by the insomnia. Once we figure out which caused which I'll be fine, cos at the moment they're sort of “carpet bombing” my symptoms with generalized sedatives/anti-depressants and painkillers just to supress them while waiting for specialist input.
Before, I'd go 2 days max, and then just drop. But after the coma, I'll lay down when absolutely knackered, and, I guess I do drop off, cos I often listen to music when going to sleep, and I've noticed a few times now that tracks just seem to 'skip', like I'm laid there, just daydreaming and thinking, and before I know it the playlist is 3 or 4 songs down. So I think the episodes I'm having are my body's way of coping, even though they're just a few seconds to a few minutes long, seems to be keeping me going. But that's just it, 2 or 3 songs down, so, 10 minutes max. And then I'm up again and can't sleep, no matter how tired I am. Then the day after, I'll be super active, and just need to fiddle or do something. I'm not sure if it coexists, because, I don't FEEL like doing it, it's more, I'm OBLIGATED to do it, like, i HAVE to do it, have to keep moving, keep fiddling, to keep my mind focused, otherwise the boredem alone would re-trigger the depression.
Tomorrow night, I'll crash, I know it, it's usually how it goes. 2-3 days. Last night I was knackered, but couldn't fall asleep, so I KNEW I was in for another day of restlessness, but, it does cheer me up in a weird way cos that way I at least know tomorrow I'll fall asleep for a few hours.
Hopefully they'll sort this out at the sleep clinic. But, like I said, it's been so many years, it's just hard to tell where the insomnia came from, whether it's a symptom of depression, or the cause of depression, cos I've never gotten help 'til March. Bottled it all up. But since January I went on a self-destructive bender, until March when I went too far.
The good thing is I'm getting help and my behaviour is less irratic and I'm in more control of myself. See, the no sleep, I can handle, it's the headaches and the boredem that drives me potty, so, that leads me to drink.. and other things.. and then that also contributes to the insomnia, which contributes to the depression, and so the cycle goes on and on and on for 14 years. So you can see why in March it just got to the point where I thought oh stuff this.
I'm seeing my GP next Friday, so hopefully he'd have sorted referral to specialist out by then and I can finally be fixed for good, I'm hoping on it anyway. Cos, another thing that contributes to it, the boredem and insomnia, is I'm not allowed to work at the moment, I'm on a med4, I'm not even allowed to handle my own meds i'm a blooming prisoner. Not allowed to work, go out for too long on my own, owt. But now I'm back on my feet and thinking straight and in control of my behaviour again, I'm hoping the GP will say I'm OK to work Friday and my mum'll cut me some slack and understand I gotta go back to work. Cos, it might be the case that a good day's work will rejuvinate my mind and senses and help me, cos then I won't be so bored, and thinking myself into a deep stupor which spirals into depression.
Sorry for blabbing, got a bit too into opening up there >.> almost 3 AM now, I get worse as the night goes on LOL
'Snowangels11' wrote on '26:Hi Tommy,
Wow, so sorry you were in a coma – bless you that you are (hopefully) recovered with exception of the insomnia/depression. Was the coma a result of a head injury?
The mind racing I have to say that I'm fine during the day – I don't experience that until my head hits the pillow. I don't know if it's the spinal cord connections getting jumbled, or if it's because I've spent all day busy with other things & it's my mind facing it when I have down time. But I really don't think it's the latter. I've had episodes in the past just as I'm drifting off to sleep that I've stopped breathing momentarily. Sometimes that goes on multiple times until I actually fall asleep.
As for the haziness during waking – I've also had that in the past but not during this episode. I've had episodes of feeling like there was a blip in my brain where the lights were going out. But I've had other health problems that can account for that. I don't think I have felt alert for years and am generally in a haze. No jerkiness – but this past week I've had ALOT of full body jerking a little bit after I fall asleep. I swear it does feel like a seizure & it's VERY annoying.
I do worry about stenosis in the neck. My stepfather has a severe case, and they told him one bad fall & he could have a stroke. He's too old for surgery. But yet, I'm terrified to get an MRI. I've just got dr. burnout and can't stand another long medical saga.
If you aren't sleeping for 2-3 days (my gosh!) it's understandable that you are getting that jerking though. Your body is probably trying to shut down. I've recently read something about how the brain does go into a semi-state of sleep during waking hours at times even when we feel alert – something to that effect.
Do you feel hyper-alert at all during the day/night? Have you ever had your cortisol levels checked?
Well this has been one of my problems, I'm either one extreme or the other, this is why I'm being referred to a specialist cos they wanna know if the insomnia is causing the depression, or if it's depression/bipolar causing the insomnia, because I am super-active and alert most of the time, I can drink, I can take sedatives, but I still won't sleep, I'll have to get back up and do something, like 4 AM other morning I was up replacing motherboard on an old computer and installing puppy linux on it, that was after not sleeping for two days. No, never had cortisol checked.
Last time I slept was monday or Sunday, days just tend to fuse together and I forget, but, I can tell already that I'm not gonna sleep tonight, cos I just feel too hyper, but several hours ago I had one of those episodes, got up and dropped to my knees, jerking and everything going fuzzy, then after a few seconds, it's over and I'm fine and feel better.
I overdosed on morphine & amitriptaline with a lot of alcohol, hence the coma, and amitriptaline is quite a potent anti-depressant, so, I do wonder sometimes if it was the amitriptaline overdose that's messed with something in my brain, cos, to be fair, I did take 3 months supply worth (200mgx90), and they're designed to alter chemicals in the brain aren't they? I haven't told my GP about these lil episodes yet though, but once my letter comes through for appointment with the assessment centre (psychiatrist, basically) I'll tell him/her, and they're already referring me to a sleep clinic so at least I have all bases covered.
