[Mac0908]

You’re being very vague. You say you tried it in 2015 and it worked right off the bat. So what happened? You didn’t stick to it I guess?

With regards to trying it again a few weeks ago with the 2a-8a window, what happened that time?

[boke]

very vague ?  hmmm, yeah I’m a little tired, lol.  I corrected that post with 2 subsequent posts that are awaiting moderation (too long ?).

[boke]

Aug 2015 worked off the bat (SRT) cause I was already tired to hell.  But it was draconian : 02h00-07h00 time frame (5 hrs TIB – time in bed).  I was ok for awhile (about a year)

[boke]

Recently, the SRT 02h00-08h00 window didn’t work so great because of sleep-onset problem.  Then used SCT to ok results.  Good for around 10 days.  Relapse 3 days ago and didn’t apply SCT properly (too lazy in bed – my fault, lol).

[boke]

Stayed in bed and most likely weakened my sleep-onset issues – but still got around 3-4 hrs of shut-eye.

[boke]

You have to understand that the insomnia was only intermittent esp around 2001 then around 2006 (night shift).  A bit around 2009 to 2010.  2011 to 2014 only had a handful of pita episodes.  But since I bought a country cabin 2 hrs from home it got worse.  A stupid NST saying : “Oh, you got to drive 2 looooong hours to and another 2 looooong hours back,…what if you didn’t get a wink all night…you’ll be a wreck”.  Lol

[boke]

Correction to my previous post.  When I said I never did SRT, I meant SCT (since I completely slept thru my 2am-8am windows).  So I definitely practiced SRT since 2015 with good results.  My problem lies w/ SCT…getting out of a warm bed to a cold living room chair really sucks.  But I’m slowly seeing results.

[boke]

My SCT guideline (I’m trying to master this but it’s pretty tough !) :

1) Don’t stay in bed after a certain amount of time (around 20 min but don’t look at the clock).

2) Do something relaxing (read a well-worn book, doodle, watch a boring movie w/ blue-blockers).

3) When eyelids are dropping like lead weights, go to bed.

4) Repeat 1-3 until you nod off in bed or until designated wakeup time.

 

[boke]

I was anxious while outta bed but reading the book calmed me.  Tough not to think about hours left to sleep but you gotta think about long-term with SRT/SCT.  It might take a few sleepless days, even.  You have to reprogram/retrain the brain to pretty much autopilot to sleep just when you hit the sack.  This is really tough to do, folks.

[boke]

I’ll keep this post updated with my results.

Just remember :  2 steps forwards, 1 step back gets you to your destination eventually.

[Mac0908]

Thank you for all the additional info. Looks like things really worked amazing for you when you began in 2015. Just curious about one more thing if you were doing well for an entire year how did the relapse occur?

[boke]

The occasional relapse occurred because I would break the cardinal sin of SCT : not getting out of bed after 20-30 min still awake (I would stay an hour or two, go for a leak and go straight back to bed and do this repeatedly all night).  SRT worked fine.

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