[Daf]

Hi Frozen Sun,

I’m surprised your therapist has not heard of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy as it is the leading “talking therapy”. Also, if you google it, you will find literally millions of results.  You can find out what it is for yourself and start practising it, don’t wait for the therapist. It’s really about positive thinking.

[frozensun]

I started going to CBT for like 10 sessions but it didn’t help.

I really can’t take clozapine,quetiapine,zyprexa anymore,they make me groggy all day long and I feel deatached from reality.

Hmm second option is to try sleep on my own,but this is impossible mission for me.

What can I do?I don’t have third option really,and I need sleep desperatly.

I know if I don’t sleep for one night now,I feel terrible,and that I won’t sleep the second night probably because fucked up hormones.

[Daf]

They should cover off catastrophising in your cbt… May help you take more optimistic stance….!!!

 

[Daf]

…. After all, you’re still here and surviving… That’s a big plus.

Go from there and try to not catastrophes. I know it’s hard when you feel bad, but you can do it.

[frozensun]

For one thing I know sadly,I ended many times third night can not fall asleep and taking meds.

I really can’t believe no one can tell what is the cause of my insomnia.

I mean how do blind man sleep.

So I know it’s risky to try to sleep without antipsychotic but taking sdatives long term probably is not solution anymore but psychiatrist don’t agree,they tell me there is a high chance to end up sadly in psychosis.

I took klonopin for more then a year but I read somewhere that klonopin deletes REM  sleep permanently in humans so I got scared.

 

[frozensun]

is there anything that can help withput these damn meds?

Anything to get my sleep back for at least 4 hours naturally?

Martin you said that shiftwork was the issue,man I don’t work for 4 months and still my sleep is not coming back.

[frozensun]

is it normal to feel deattached from reality after one night of no sleep?

[Davy]

yes and no a normal sleeper is probably not affected by it at the least he is a little drossy but us insomniacs we are sleep deprived there is nothing left in our tank trust me i know the feeling after yet another sleepless night one is ok but if they come in a row that’s hard i understand you are angry and frustrated we have a million questions and not one helps us sleep better

[frozensun]

after 48 h of like 2-3 h of sleep total,I had to take klonopin last night to get some rest.

Although I don’t feel fresh at all.

When I woke up,one thought came to my mind:WHAT IF MY SLEEP NEVER COMES BACK NATURALLY.

I’m scared like shit…

 

[frozensun]

so still no sleep,last week I ended 2 nights/days without a sleep.
For like 3 weeks I feel dissociated.
A week ago psychiatrist gave me Clozapine,God this is not a pill this is a death.
I took it last 3 days,and I couldn’t function at all.
I had a good sleep for 10 hours but all day long I felt deattached from the world,can’t think,can’t read,can’t concentrate,can’t even pay a simple bill.
Psychiatrist told me I have to take it but I really don’t want to because I feel like a plant on it.
I wish it only sedates me but it doesn’t it’s like a feeling you see all around yourself in a fog.
What can I do?
I went to somnologist to other country and he gave me a pill,too this time Tegretol,and I didn’t take it since it has nasty side effects same as Clozapine.
Wherever I go they all give me pills for epilepsy,schizophrenia.
I can’t take this anymore,and I can’t take insomnia too.
What else is left for me to try,please help me?

[Tahereh]

Hi, i am a medical student from Norway. Recently I battle with insomnia and reseached the issue. There is a medicine named Xyrem which is used for narcolepsy. It helps with deep sleep. I am trying to make my doctor prescribe it for me. It costs 39000 kr in Norway. Very experience if your insurance doesn’t cover it. There is another drug named Belsomra which might help. I have not tried Xyrem or Belsomra. But I know Xyrem will work.

[Bchavers]

I relate so much to your story. Hopefully you are better and found some peace. I’m in your position now. It’s terrible. I’m not sure what to do. I’m trying neurofeedback therapy with an insomnia coach. When I’m tired and I do neuro feedback I actually do get. Nap in. I’ll let you know how that goes.

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