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  • #54701

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Good morning, good sleepers. I have been taking 1/2 or 1/4 mg clonazepam on nights that I wake up at 12 and cannot go back to sleep (most nights). My doc has completely cut me off. I am really anxious about how I am going to get through this. I honestly can’t stand having to depend on this and beg my doc for it. Can you give me some advice on how to get through rebound insomnia?

    #54717

    Scott
    Mentor

    Hi, welcome to the forum!

    How long have you been experiencing insomnia? What time do you usually go to bed at night, when do you get out of bed to start your day in the morning, and how many hours of sleep would you say you get on an average night? Understanding that sleeping pills rarely have a positive long-term outcome on our sleep since sleep meds can’t generate sleep, have you considered experimenting with CBT-I evidence-based techniques? CBT-I addresses our thoughts and behaviors that causes our sleep disruptions, something a pill has the inability to do.

    Scott J

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    #54726

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    I have used CBTI for years. Recently I have had issues with sleep when I don’t use sleep aids. If I take 1/2 to 1/4 mg clonazepam when I wake up in the middle of the night, I sleep 7-8 hours. If I don’t take anything, I do not usually go back to sleep leaving me with @ 4 hours of sleep for that night. I understand that this could be a combination of the placebo effect and rebound insomnia. I just want to know how to get through this period so that I do not need this drug any more. Can you help me understand how to power through this process?

    #54763

    Martin Reed
    ★ Admin

    If you slept without medication for seven to eight hours every single night, what would you be doing differently with your life compared to if you averaged four hours of sleep without medication?

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    #54765

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    I would be doing all the same things but not feeling well. If I power through this period of adjustment or rebound insomnia, would it eventually level off or would I be stuck sleeping 4 hrs per night and feeling exhausted all the time?

    #54771

    Martin Reed
    ★ Admin

    It can be hard to control how we feel — since, over the long term, we cannot control how we feel just as we cannot control what we think (or how we sleep).

    Often, for as long as our focus is on things we can’t control, we can remain tangled up in an endless and exhausting struggle.

    When people read your gravestone 100 years from now, what would you like to see written on it? Things like, “She managed to feel well”, “She didn’t spend much time awake at night”, “She got 7-8 hours of sleep” — or would you prefer to see it mention all the important things you stood for and pursued in your life?

    If it’s the latter, I wonder whether that’s more important to focus attention on — especially since all that stuff is in your control?

    Shifting focus might also create the bonus effect of better sleep since you will no longer be trying to control something that can’t be controlled — your attention will be focussed on what’s in your control and what might truly determine whether you live the kind of life you want to live.

    I hope there’s something helpful here.

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    #54773

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Thank you, Martin. That was helpful. As always, I appreciate your time and conscientiousness. I hope I can live up to that goal.

    #54837

    Martin Reed
    ★ Admin

    You’re welcome! I appreciate the opportunity to discuss your concerns — this is something that I am sure will be useful for many other people, too!

    What’s your plan, moving forward?

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    #54864

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    I plan to once again taper off sleep aids two days a week and then three. I know I was able to completely “cure” myself of panic episodes with acceptance. I am going to try that with insomnia too. Martin, I wish you would write a book. If I had that for reference, I think I could do this. Thank you. Regards, Deb

    #55042

    Martin Reed
    ★ Admin

    A book is definitely in the works at some point! Acceptance can be such a powerful change in our mindset — and it frees up so much energy for more important, meaningful, and workable actions and behaviors!

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    #55048

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Martin, fingers crossed, acceptance seems to be working. I have stopped using clonazepam to sleep and I am sleeping fine. I am reading a book called “The Goodnight Mind” and it aligns with your CBTI philosophy and puts a lot of emphasis the same concepts as yours and on how we think about sleep. I look forward to reading your book when you publish it. 🙂

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