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  • #48643

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving. I took the two week course from Martin. My sleep was much better. My issue is inconsistency. I will be able to sleep for sometimes a week with no issues except I always wake up after 4 hours. On a good week, I will go right back to sleep and then for no reason I can explain, I start staying awake for either three hours or the rest of the night. The only way I can get back to sleep is to take sleep aids (clonazapam). I can’t stand that I have to take that stuff to go back to sleep. Then the pattern repeats itself for days up to a week. Do any of you have advice on how to get through the sudden unexpected relapses? I am extremely frustrated. Thank you for all you do. Regards, Deb

    #48684

    Angeli
    ✘ Not a client

    Hello Dbaldino!

    I went through that too. I slept well after the course, I suddenly started waking up in the middle of the night and couldn’t go back to sleep. Despair was back! Getting anxious again to fulfill the commitments of the next day, she ended up taking a pill to get at least 2 hours of sleep. I realized with this that it gave gas to insomnia. In other words, she continued to direct my life, my days and nights. Every SOS pill I took she won the game and got stronger. And the cycle repeated itself. Whenever I take a medication, I give power to insomnia, and it starts stalking me again. This is all very subtle. It doesn’t make sense. It seems like a game that the more you lose, that is, you surrender and accept defeat and watch over it, the more at peace you are and sleep finally returns. With sleep everything works in reverse. I await news of how you got over it. (sorry for English)

    #48700

    Chee2308
    ✓ Client

    The only time you take a pill to sleep is when you think there’s something wrong with your sleep and you need a quick fix. And when you think there’s a problem, your mind automatically goes into troubleshooting or panic mode and this makes it harder to fall asleep. You also want to sleep more because you think more is better and therefore trying to override your body’s own mechanisms. In summary, you are trying to force sleep to happen because you have this fear that little sleep is equal to bad outcomes. And then guess what? Your struggle continues without end….

    #48703

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Thank you for your encouragement, Angeli. I love the way you said it works in reverse. I understand that pills are bad. I know that the only way I can sleep is if I relax my mind. I have tapered down to .25 mg (this time) and will wean off. At that point it is just a placebo. I did sleep until 3:30 am today and believe it or not that is an accomplishment for me. I just sometimes panic when 2-3 hours of sleep goes on for up to 5 days in a row and I feel terrible. I don’t know how this can be good for my health and I still don’t understand how my brain or body “thinks” this is okay. Again, thank you for your advice and I will try peaceful acceptance.

    #48710

    Angeli
    ✘ Not a client

    Chee2308 gratitude for your input. Yes, an endless fight, as you put it. When I do CBTi and continue taking medications, I am giving my brain two pieces of information. 1- I can do it and 2- I can’t do it/ And I’m stuck in the process, drying ice. Skating in the same place. I need to drop all efforts to help my sleep, otherwise CBTi won’t work. And knowing the bad nights can return but I don’t need to run off to meds again. Before long, everything falls into place. The sleep train gets back on track. At times when I feel alertness returning at night and adrenaline building, I go back to Martin’s course and reread all the notes and copies I made of the mentors’ posts here on the forum. It reduces the madness of fear, brings me closer to reality and reminds me of what I have to do. Usually when relapses happen, it’s because I’m already doing some things wrong and increasing my sleep effort. In other words: “Does wrong that goes wrong”. (sorry for english)

    #48712

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Thank you for all your help and caring, Angeli. I am going to try all your suggestions. I’ll let you know how it goes. By the way, your English is perfect. 🌹

    #48717

    Chee2308
    ✓ Client

    Hi Deb
    I’d say managing your relationship with poor sleep is key here. The issue isn’t about the actual sleep itself anymore because you’d shown yourself you can sleep.

    Pls try to stop fearing poor sleep, this is how a lot of people recover. Think of it another way, if you sleep a little poorly after a stretch of sleeping well, then the most likely explanation is your sleep drive is getting reduced after those good sleep. Isn’t this a sure sign your sleep system is working perfectly well? There is nothing else to troubleshoot and nothing to solve because nothing is broken. The faster you give up your efforts to improve, the faster your mind will settle down and then you find you fall back asleep faster, that was what happened to me and I believe many others too.

    #48734

    dbaldino
    ✘ Not a client

    Wow! Thank you so much for all your support and for helping me get my confidence back. This forum is excellent. I know I can rely on the clients in this forum to get me back on track when I go astray.

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