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Chee2308
✓ Client“I can just lay there and relax and eventually I go back to sleep.” – So what’s wrong with that response? And why is being woken up even a problem at all?
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✓ ClientWhat would you do if sleep wasn’t a factor? If you haven’t got insomnia? Or pre-insomnia, what would you have done?
Then do exactly that. Show your brain that sleep, or a lack of it, which is often temporary, is nothing to be concerned about.
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✓ ClientHello and welcome
I think there is a lot of self-blaming and a relentless drive to seek perfection in everything going on there. Things like;
1. How am I supposed to…
2. I feel comfortable for 2 mins and then this and that happens…
3. I have a ton of things going on
4. I have 5 kids etc etc…
5. How am I supposed to sleep with all that going on??The reality is there is no perfect moment in life. There is no perfect time or condition for sleep. There is no perfect sleep even. Nothing is perfect and being okay with imperfections is okay. There is perfection even in imperfections when you no longer actively try to correct things or seek quick fixes. Many things are beyond your control, sleep being one of them. You just get on with life. As you keep moving on, sleep just slips into the background. You no longer worry about it. You no longer think about it. Maybe not as much. And that is what recovery looks like. Just keep moving on, showing up and doing things.
It also means normalizing everything no matter how difficult they seem. Sensations, feelings and thoughts. Things like poor sleep. Butterflies in stomach. Heart racing. Mind in overdrive. Feeling horrible. Etc etc etc. You accept that everything is normal and there’s nothing to worry about. At the end of the day, these are just thoughts or feelings. They don’t matter so much and they keep changing constantly. It’s just not helpful to keep focusing on them all the time. Good luck.
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✓ ClientYes people often improve even after their cbti course has ended.
Very often, it is when you no longer think about it as much. You are no longer chasing a target. Life takes hold and other things take precedence. Sleep just fades into the background and a perceived lack of it is no longer considered an imminent threat or danger. You just move on with your life and become preoccupied with other things.
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✓ ClientAll insomnia problems are the same. Everyone’s insomnia is the same. You are completely discounting the possiblity of change. Change happens all the time. Your cells renew all the time so everything can reset, including your sleep system. It is robust enough to survive anything including nights of not sleeping and all kinds of stress you find yourself in, including extreme stress over poor sleep.
Try not to focus too much on sleep at this time. Enjoy the other aspects of going to bed. Getting comfortable in a comfortable bed and snuggling under the comfortable sheets. Having a roof over your head. Living in a safe home in a safe neighborhood with caring neighbors and family. These are aspects all insomniacs ignore because they are overly focused on one aspect: sleep, sleep, sleep. Leave it alone and your insomnia will leave you alone. Don’t chase it, let it chase you!
Your sleep system will reset when you consistently keep to a regular bedtime schedule. Start feeling the joy of feeling sleepy again. You will begin nodding off sometime before bedtime or anytime during the day. Don’t be alarmed, this is a sure-fire sign your sleep system is working perfectly. As you sleep better, you will start waking up more as well, don’t be alarmed either, this is another sure-fire sign of sleeping well. In the end, stop focusing obsessively on sleep and you will recover. Be patient, don’t set a target or deadline. It will work itself out, just trust the process. Have you any idea how your body makes you sleepy or fall asleep?? What, how, when and why. Can you give comprehensive answer how sleep works? If you can’t, then why are taking on the heavy responsibility of micro managing it when you have next to no idea how it works? In the end, everyone will have to leave it alone because nobody can or ever control it anyway!
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✓ ClientDo not believe what your mind is telling you. This is what everyone who recovered eventually found out. Your mind is only trying to keep you safe and thinks poor sleep is bad and extremely dangerous, the narrative your mind keeps presenting to you, is like you are trying to sleep inside a lion’s den, but it is not! So in a way, insomnia is a state of confusion where your mind cannot tell between a real and perceived threat (but the perceived threat is actually safe and just a false alarm) Because you are sleeping in perhaps the safest place in the world, in your own bed in your own home and surrounded by people who love and cherish you.
You and indeed many people can break out of this cycle often by slowly disbelieving what your monkey mind keeps telling you. This is often called creating a distance between you and your own thoughts. Eventually, you don’t take them seriously anymore, you just let them flow away like leaves being carried away by currents in a stream, as thoughts and feelings are temporary in nature, and they change all the time so it’s never productive to keep entertaining them. Eventually, you settle down and accept these unhelpful thoughts as your mind pinging you with useless crap and you are no longer afraid of them. You might even laugh at yourself at the end of this!
Sleep is independent of thoughts. You can think about anything or be scared of anything or take meds but sleep will always happen in the end. Sleep only responds to routine not thoughts or efforts. Getting into and out of bed at regular times is all you need to beat insomnia. And consistency plus discipline remains key. Instead of seeking to keep running away from the discomfort, go the other way and actually get comfortable with any discomfort. If you do these steps, slowly but surely, there is almost no way you won’t recover because millions have. Slowly leaving this state of fear and confusion will inevitably lead to liberation and recovery. Good luck.
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✓ ClientHello and welcome
That is a very subjective question. Recovery often has a personality factor involved, ie, your personality plays a role, how you view certain things. Do you always tend to be on negative side, ie, always taking the bad views or are you more of an optimistic person?
But basically, a typical journey is kinda like:
1. You become more and more convinced nothing is wrong with your sleep.
2. You start accepting whatever sleep you get. Any sleep, even zero sleep due to a disruption which is normal in life and often temporary, is normal sleep.
3. You begin normalizing every feeling, thought or sensation, no matter how unpleasant they seem. Those thoughts or feelings are still the same, but how you view them changes with time. You start becoming comfortable with discomfort and no longer try to fight or avoid it.But at the end of the day, sleep is simple. There is nothing to figure out and nothing to fix. It often happens with a complete lack of effort (trying less). On the contrary, it does not respond to efforts (and therefore cannot be controlled consciously) but the only thing that tends to influence it is routine. Things like getting into and out of bed at regular times, eating at regular times, having appropriate light exposure at appropriate times etc. These things affect your circadian rhythm and sleep is a part of it.
I hope you find your way to peaceful rest soon.
Chee2308
✓ ClientHello Sleep and everyone
It’s important to realize that worrying about anything, including sleep, doesn’t actually cause insomnia. Because people usually develop insomnia from zero worry about sleep to recovering from it, even when worrying about it. The body processes every thought or worry in exactly the same way, so you could worry about work, family or anything else including sleep and still sleep well. It doesn’t matter what the aggravating factor is, your body will do what it needs to do and that includes breathing, drinking, eating, peeing, pooping and yes, sleeping too.
Recovering from insomnia is kinda like riding a rollercoaster. It’s extremely exciting perhaps fearful the first time which is normal, but when you keep doing it, which is what exactly anyone would do in regards to sleeping, you become accustomed to it, you just begin normalizing every thought or feeling, no matter how unpleasant they are and feelings or thoughts are always inherently safe, you begin accepting them as normal and you think less and less about them until you completely forgot how unpleasant and uneasy they used to make you feel.
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✓ ClientHello there!
There is nothing to “recover” from actually. The struggle continues mainly because of the rigid conditions you set for yourself, for example,
1. Napping is strictly forbidden because night time sleep MUST be protected, at all costs.
2. Only night time sleep is allowed and “normal”. Sleeping at other times is “abnormal”.
What not adopt a completely carefree attitude towards sleep? Trusting the entire process will work itself out. That your body knows how and when to sleep and how to keep you awake when you absolutely must. And that sleeping at any time when it’s safe and convenient, is nothing to be ashamed of. Mainly because sleep doesn’t need any kind of “protection”. Even if you try to “protect” it doesn’t guarantee you will get it either, because you still fear not getting it.
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✓ ClientHello there
Thank you for reaching out. Before I go into much detail, may I put forward a question: Do you know exactly how your body makes you sleepy? How, what, when and why?
Unless you know the exact answers, so why do you feel a need to control a biological process which you have next to zero idea how it actually works? Since when and why did you make it your responsibility to manage this entire process? I can tell you the answer: it’s not your fault you can’t sleep, you wanted to control a process that was never under your control in the first place. And therein lies the problem and frustration, when you fail to control it.
Sleep works like hunger, it happens the longer you go on without it. Another factor is routine. Sleep is part of an ecosystem called the circadian rhythm that self regulates, like body temperature, feeling hungry, or the need to pee or poop, and even breathing. Do you want to control all of them?
Just set a time to get in and out of bed. Try not to worry about the rest, it regulates itself, remember? That’s all you need to do. Also, as you sleep better, which inevitably happens as you begin giving up control and becoming okay with any outcome, don’t be alarmed by waking up more during the night, adopt the concept of befriending wakefulness, because it’s okay and perfectly normal to wake up during the night. As you recover, these episodes often lessen and almost all people can fall asleep again.
Good luck and best wishes to you.
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✓ ClientHello Mercury
You’re doing great because you aren’t talking about sleep a lot. That’s how people with insomnia heal, they speak about it less and less often. They often reconnect with something else and they basically just move on. Keep going and my best wishes to you in the new year.
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✓ ClientIf you had a bad night, it means absolutely nothing except you had a bad night. There is nothing you can really do about it. Life has to move on, because you have other priorities in life that you need to attend to, right? An occasional poor night is never harmful or unhealthy. It is even normal because good sleepers get them too.
Here is the irony about a poor night: it is actually a sign of sleeping well not poorly. Because your sleep drive has reduced, and nothing can reduce sleep drive except sleeping.
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✓ ClientNo it won’t affect either. Having any kind of fear including fear of poor sleep won’t negate your body ability to sleep. It will still happen no matter what, like breathing. Or feeling extremely hungry after long time not eating.
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✓ ClientNo it will not affect. Because sleep is never under your control to begin with. Trying to control sleep is like trying to control your breathing, believing you need to breathe 400x a minute or bad things will happen. So you obsessively try to count your breath every minute trying to achieve that target. Instead of just trusting your body to do its job because it is never something you need to worry about.
Well sleep is like that. You think changing jobs will affect your body’s ability to sleep/breathe. And that’s exactly what you are trying to find the answer to, will changing jobs affect my sleep/breathing/appetite/digestion/pee/poo or whatever your mind is obsessed with. At this time, it’s sleep. The short answer is, whatever you do in life never affects anything that your body already knows how to do.
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✓ ClientIn the short term, there may be disruption. But this is normal, even normal sleepers get sleep disruptions when they change jobs or work environments. But the difference is they don’t worry about it and they get on with their day and their sleep returns to normal. The same will happen to anyone whether they have insomnia or not. Their sleep always settles down. Focus on the long term and not temporary results. Ultimately, you want to be like the normal sleeper again, where you no longer worry about sleep.
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