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That’s great to hear — thanks for sharing! You are discovering that there’s no need to go to war with anxiety (as much as you’d like to get rid of it) and that giving it some space to exist helps it come and go, rather than stick around and become more powerful and more difficult. Good on you for getting stuck in with an open and curious mind!
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Many people have experienced multiple nights of no sleep. They’re hard. No doubt about it.
Each night of no sleep increases the likelihood of sleep on subsequent nights thanks to the accumulation of sleep pressure. What suppresses that sleep pressure (and therefore generates a requirement of more wakefulness) are all our efforts to make sleep happen.
The thing about anxiety and hyperarousal is that we can still sleep in their presence. When we go to war with anxiety and hyperarousal, things get more difficult and sleep moves further away. After all, human beings wouldn’t be around today if they fell asleep in the middle of a battle, right?
It’s interesting that you’ve found yourself experiencing a lot of sleepiness during the day when you don’t want sleep to happen and might not be trying to make sleep happen or putting pressure on yourself to make sleep happen. Is there an insight there, perhaps?
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Our own experience can often be a very valuable guide. Have you napped in the past? What did you learn from that?
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Hello @Bsue and welcome aboard — it’s good to have you here and it’s great to know that you are excited to explore a new approach. That’s concrete evidence of your tenacity and growth mindset!
I think @cr.burgman gave some great tips — and we’ll be exploring how to respond to nighttime wakefulness in a lot of detail in Week 2.
In the meantime, what might be useful is getting in some practice with acknowledging what you are thinking or feeling when you are awake at night, being kind to yourself, and — instead of battling with wakefulness and those thoughts and feelings — engaging in an alternative activity (in bed or out of bed, your choice) whenever you find yourself struggling.
The goal of the alternative activity isn’t to change your thoughts and feelings or to make sleep happen — it’s to give you a more constructive and more appealing way of responding to that wakefulness (especially if you know from experience that battling and struggle tends not to be a workable approach).
I hope this helps!
PS: You are having a hard time turning off your brain because that only happens when we are dead!
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Hello Nicki_23! Why does it feel important to you to move away from sleeping pills?
In terms of how to approach this, in my experience the approach or strategy itself doesn’t matter a whole lot. What matters is discussing this with your doctor and then coming up with a realistic plan that you feel you can stick to — and then sticking to it each night, regardless of how sleep goes.
With a good plan, there should be no ambiguity about what the medication usage is going to be each night — this should be known in advance. Taking medication based on “how the night goes” is often a surefire way to create more difficulty since your mind is going to be more active to monitor/evaluate/troubleshoot/brainstorm/debate etc.
Your plan might involve a really slow taper, it might involve a faster taper, it might involve going cold turkey. Sticking to the plan as best you can is really all that matters.
Is this something you’ve spoken to your doctor about?
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Excessive heat can definitely make things more difficult — and perhaps what makes that heat even more difficult are our attempts to fight the wakefulness and the thoughts and feelings that show up with it?
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You can do whatever feels right for you! I usually suggest simply choosing an out of bed time that’s aligned with the life you live (or want to live) — we can get a bit tripped up with the sleep window if we use it in an attempt to control sleep; its true intent is to help move us away from chasing after sleep!
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You’re welcome, Chantal! You clearly have an analytical and problem-solving mind — both of which are true strengths!
I am not sure we’ll ever see studies that provide evidence that only five, or four, or three, or seven hours of sleep are necessary since we still don’t really know why we sleep or even how much we truly need. It’s a bit like trying to figure out what size foot is necessary.
We’re only ever guessing and playing with averages and associations — and, even if we had a clear answer on the amount of sleep that’s necessary (or the foot size that’s necessary!), what can we do with that information when neither can be controlled through effort anyway?
Your awareness that this preoccupation might be counterproductive is a valuable insight. You might not necessarily be able to control thoughts related to this stuff — but you can always choose how you respond. In other words, you can always choose to do something other than Google for answers over and over again — and, perhaps doing something that’s aligned with your identity and values might have more of a positive influence over the kind of life you live?
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Hello Chantal!
This study found that sleeping for under 4.5 hours (or more than 6.5 hours a night!) was linked with cognitive decline.
Again, this is only a “link” — as with most sleep-related studies. The main point I was trying to make here is that there’s no universal sleep duration that fits everyone and it can be quite futile to try to generate a certain amount of sleep (since that’s out of our control).
When it comes to averages, this study found that the “average” sleep duration for women was under 7 hours and for men it was under 6.5 hours. Furthermore, sleep duration and sleep need vary as we age, too.
I think what matters here is this:
1. Nobody really knows how much sleep the body needs — there’s no universal sleep need (just as there’s no universal shoe size).
2. Sleep averages are not the same as individual sleep needs (and how sleep is recorded/reported can bring huge variability and uncertainty).
3. The body will generate the amount (and type) of sleep it needs as long as we give it the opportunity to do so.
4. Things get more difficult the more we get involved in the process — but the body can still generate, at the very least, the minimum amount of sleep it needs no matter what we do.
I hope this helps!
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You are clearly a strong advocate for yourself and a keen problem-solver!
Nothing there says that chronic insomnia causes any health condition or problem (and no such study exists). Furthermore, acute sleep loss is not chronic insomnia and sleep deprivation is not chronic insomnia.
Now, that’s not to say sleep definitely has no influence over what you are describing — I am not a doctor! It’s just that I’ve not come across any evidence that suggests sleep is the cause of what you are describing.
I would encourage you to discuss the swelling you described with your doctor — this is not a place to obtain medical advice, unfortunately.
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Regardless of direction, my suggestion would be the same. If you don’t feel sleepy when your sleep window begins, you might want to wait until you do feel sleepy before going to bed, while maintaining the same out of bed time as usual (for example, 6 AM at home would be 6 AM at your destination, too).
If a sleep window of 12-645 when on vacation better helps you live the life you want to live and moves you away from trying to control or chase after sleep, then go for it!
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Nobody here is alone — and it’s great to see the support and understanding being shared in this discussion thread
A common theme I see here is that the more we seem to try to control sleep or what we are thinking or how we are feeling, the more likely we can be to struggle and the more likely we might be to engage in behaviors/actions we don’t want to engage in. The result is, we then have the additional difficulty that comes from acting in ways we’d rather not. In other words, things get more difficult the more we try to (totally understandably) control or resist all this difficult stuff.
So, we have the difficult stuff (such as being awake, having certain thoughts, or experiencing certain feelings). That’s hard. Then, our response to that can end up making things even more difficult.
What might things be like if we could develop some skill in responding in a different way? Perhaps with acknowledgement and self-kindness and less resistance? Perhaps that might free up some energy and help us act in ways that are more aligned with how we wish to act?
This is a big topic and we’ll be exploring it in a lot more detail as the course progresses — and, typically, moving forward involves acting in meaningful ways (since we can control our actions) rather than how we might sleep from night to night (something we cannot directly control).
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I have not heard of chronic insomnia causing swelling as you describe — have you discussed that with your doctor?
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The fact you’ve experienced improvement shows that you are capable of generating sleep (and sleep doesn’t require confidence to happen)!
When you reflect back on when you slept well and when sleep wasn’t a struggle and had little influence over your life, was there a difference in how you approached sleep then compared to now? If so, are there any insights there?
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Welcome aboard! Why do you want to get off the sleep meds and what needs to happen before you get started with that? Why does thinking about sleep seem to be a problem? What do sleep-related thoughts stop you from doing?
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