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Welcome to the forum, CKT53. Did anything in particular happen a year or so ago to trigger your sleep issues? You mentioned that you have tried getting up to do something when you couldn’t sleep but it didn’t work. How long did you get up for, and did you repeat the process throughout the night, and during subsequent nights? Getting out of bed when you can’t sleep does work, but it takes a lot of commitment and consistency.
How do you know you are not getting any deep sleep?
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Hello JT2. Tell us a bit more about your sleep. What is a typical night like? When do you go to bed, when do you get out of bed, and roughly how many hours of sleep do you get each night? Can you trace your insomnia back to a specific time or event?
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Thanks for your post. I am sure there will be many people who read your post and immediately identify with the situation you are in and the frustration you feel.
First, please try to avoid using the computer/tablet/cellphone at times when you should be sleeping. Although they can serve as a welcome distraction from wakefulness, they can actually stimulate the mind and make sleep more difficult.
It is worth being reminded that even the best sleepers have the occasional bad night of sleep — so experiencing bad nights shouldn’t be something you dwell on or worry about. Instead, simply recognize that you had a bad night and treat the next night as a ‘fresh start’.
There is little point in analyzing why you may have had a bad night because even if you figure out the answer, it is unlikely you will be able to make any changes that lead to a different outcome. Remember that sleep cannot be controlled. All we can do is set the stage and hope the show goes off without a hitch.
Commit to the techniques you are learning and they will work. This is a key example of short-term pain for long-term gain. Over time, the good nights will become far more consistent and the bad nights will become far less common. Reaching that point does take time.
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Thank you for sharing your experience, Cooper — and for emphasizing the importance of talking to your doctor if planning to make any changes to an existing medication regimen.
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Remember that the goal of sleep restriction isn’t for you to get more sleep that night. The intention is to make sure that you spend more time in bed asleep rather than awake. The goal of sleep restriction is to re-establish the bed as a cue for sleep. This is achieved by reducing the amount of time you spend in bed so more time is spent asleep rather than awake.
If you are going to bed at around midnight and getting up at 6.30am, I would assume that you are typically getting between 6 and 6.5 hours of sleep. If that’s not the case, you are still allotting a bit too much time for sleep and this may be one reason why sleep restriction isn’t currently working out for you.
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Unfortunately I can’t give you a straight answer because research in this area is lacking. A 2015 article in Obstetric Medicine wrote that:
CBT has been shown in nonpregnant patients to be safe, as effective as and more durable than sedative medications but data in pregnant women is lacking.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4935047/
No specific mention was made about sleep restriction so I would suggest talking to your doctor about this.
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Worrying about sleep is extremely common — as are behaviors such as cancelling social events and becoming more introverted. Unfortunately, these defensive behaviors can actually make sleep worse so they are best avoided! In fact, research suggests that maintaining a good social life can help prevent insomnia from turning into depression.
SpringDays has some good suggestions. Recognizing that thoughts can’t change outcomes can be very helpful since it helps us realize that negative thinking and worry doesn’t serve any positive purpose. Writing diaries or keeping ‘worry journals’ can also be very helpful, as can a relaxing pre-bedtime routine.
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Were you able to sleep through your husband’s snoring before your sleep troubles began? Your bed partner’s snoring is likely to disrupt your sleep regardless of any actions you take to improve your own sleep. Has your husband seen a doctor about his snoring? Improving that will likely be a big help when it comes to improving the quality of your sleep, as well as your husband’s.
If you average 5 hours of sleep, I would typically suggest allotting no more than 6 hours for sleep each night. You should also be getting out of bed when unable to sleep to help strengthen the link between your bed and sleep and weaken the link between your bed and wakefulness.
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You could very well have identified the initial cause of your insomnia. Most cases of insomnia are triggered by a specific event or period of stress. A few examples might be a work promotion, getting fired, studying for exams, or relationship changes. It is perfectly normal for sleep to be disrupted at times like this. However, what can happen is when the stressor goes away, the sleep problem remains.
This often happens because when our sleep is initially disrupted, we begin paying far more attention to our sleep than we ever did before. In addition, we often implement behaviors to try to improve our sleep that can actually make sleep worse (one example would be spending too much time in bed).
The good news is that cognitive and behavioral techniques will help address the sleep-related thoughts and behaviors that are harming sleep. Have you looked into CBT for insomnia by any chance?
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Welcome to the forum! Tell us more about your sleep. What is a typical night like?
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Hello Barb
How long have you had this issue for, and why do you think you find it hard to fall asleep at night? Do you find your mind ‘races’ and is full of different thoughts? If so, what kind of thoughts are they? Are they specifically to do with sleep, or are you thinking about other things?
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A useful first step is trying to figure out what triggered your insomnia. Since your sleep issues only began roughly 3 months ago, are you able to pinpoint their cause? Did anything happen 3 months ago?
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This is quite a common concern and the answer comes down to what your long-term aims are. Imagine if you didn’t have a sleep problem — it’s likely your husband would still wake you at 4.30am. So, the decision comes down to whether you want to sleep separately from your husband for the long-term, or tolerate his early arisings for the long-term. Practicing sleep restriction shouldn’t have much influence on your decision in this respect.
Many people with insomnia worry about the effect of their sleeplessness on their bed partners. However, when asked, most bed partners will report very little disturbance and will be very encouraging when it comes to addressing the sleep problems with techniques such as sleep restriction and stimulus control. It is far better for a bed partner to deal with a few weeks of disruption during the implementation of CBT techniques than trying to sleep with a bed partner who tosses and turns all night, every night, with no end in sight!
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Why do you feel that you struggle with sleep? When you go to bed, what happens? I don’t think I’ve heard of anyone going 7 days and nights without sleep. Did you really get 0 minutes of sleep over a 7 day period?
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I can’t really comment on the psychosis or schizoaffective disorder because I am not a doctor. Have you spoken to your doctor about cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia? It may be helpful to identify and address any thoughts and behaviors that may be interfering with your sleep.
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