- June 19, 2019 at 1:18 pm #30232
Thought I’d do a positive post for the first time in a while noting my improvements from where I was 2.5 years ago to how far I’ve come since then, especially in the last 5 months. Maybe this will give me the boost I need to get back on track.
-no longer ever wake in the middle the night
-early awakenings are much more rarer
-always fall asleep within a half an hour
-sleep anxiety/fear is down tremendously from where it once was, even as recent as 4-5 months ago
-more good nights than bad overall in the last 5 months than when looking back at the 2 years beforehand
-though I’m still upset a lot and still wonder, I have a ridiculous understanding about sleep and insomnia in general more than ever before
-I have not taken anything extra to “help” me sleep in a long time (i.e. Sleepy time tea, ZZZquil, melatonin pills, etc)June 19, 2019 at 1:49 pm #30233
Sounds like you did quite well since you started SR in earnest. I listed my positives the other day in order to motivate me through these rough patches.
1 – Usually fall asleep within 15 minutes of going to bed.
2 – The sleep I do get is more consolidated.
3_ I don’t take supplements any more to get me to sleep. Although, I do have Sleepy Time tea every now and then but not to put me to sleep. I learned I like the taste of it.June 19, 2019 at 5:47 pm #30229
Hang in there Mac. I know it’s tough but you have had, and you will have, better sleeps in the coming days. I just know what you mean about going to bed even if you aren’t exhausted because you have to be up early. A lot of times, I never feel exhausted no matter how long I stay up. So, in order to get some sleep, I’ll go to bed. Last night I was really tired but once I started reading my book, the tiredness seemed to disappear. I am also having an additional problem I don’t know if you encounter. We have had a horrible start to the Summer and it is just beginning to warm up here. I can’t open a window because of the pollen outside so I use a fan. But last night, the fan made the room too cool if I turned it on and the room was too warm if I left it off. This might continue to be a problem over the Summer. Not sure what to do about it yet. Anyway, you have the tools to use to get back good sleep. It might take awhile but you’ll get it back.
And in the end, if we don’t, we can always buy those light glasses the poster on this site.bought on E-Bay.June 20, 2019 at 12:21 pm #30240
So I see there have been few posts in this thread the last few days. That’s actually good news, I guess, as people don’t tend to post when things are going well for them. I am glad things are going well for a lot of you. I, however, am on my fifth night of poor sleep and I feel really lousy this morning. I know some of you have had this happen to you where you get a week of good sleep and then a week of bad, so I am not really complaining that much. And I know that every night is a new night not dependent on other nights as well as the fact that we can’t control our sleep. I know all of that. But I sure wish I could get back into the groove again where I was getting 5 hours a night rather than 3 or 3 and a half. Getting up for this SR is really rough although very necessary. The problem with doing SR is that my SW is so small, if I have to get up twice, I am almost destined to get a maximum of 3 hours sleep total for the night and I feel rotten after that. The only things better about my sleep now than before I started SR is that I fall asleep faster and my sleep is more consolidated. But I am still getting a lot less sleep than before I started SR.June 20, 2019 at 2:51 pm #30243
Hey Steve. I think for you the good news is that you at least have some structure in place and like I’ve said many times before, as long as you stick with it, you’ll be much better in a couple of months time. I hear you about how saddening it is to go from such a good phase, whether it be a few days or a full week, to such a bad phase whether that be a few bad days or a full bad week. That is the case for me right now. This entire week has just been NOT good, and I’m starting to think both of those Saturday and Sunday lie in’s until 7:15am (way past my usual wakeup time) messed everything up. Boy those days were amazing and I felt so well rested, but when it came time for work Monday morning and my 6am alarm it didn’t work out. Had no real sleep drive the night before. This entire week has basically been a process of resetting it all. Last night was slightly better than the previous few, but I’m still tired today. Some form of SRT for life in order to have good sleep doesn’t sound appealing to me at all but that might be the direction I’m ultimately heading in.June 20, 2019 at 3:07 pm #30244
I think a lot of us are heading in that direction Mac. I can see me doing some form of SRT for life as well. I don’t think I will ever be “cured”. I am just hoping at some point, I can get back to enough sleep where I feel refreshed most nights instead of really tired and exhausted. But that is a long time coming, I know. Boy, I wish I could go back to the time this all started. I wonder if I could change things? I certainly would have approached the surgery differently. I have to tell you, I thought for sure I would sleep better last night as I had some really great news that relieved a lot of my anxiety and stress that I had been having. In just a small moment, it was all lifted from my shoulders. But when it came time to sleep, I still got the crappy 3 hours.
I do wonder how everyone else is doing on here? This thread has really gone quiet in the last week.June 21, 2019 at 11:45 am #30257
How you doing this morning Mac? How is everyone else doing? Still in a rut and it was a tough night last night. It was a very fitful sleep and once again, I am very tired today. Can’t wait till the good sleeps return.June 21, 2019 at 12:01 pm #30258
Well Steve I’ve finally reached the end of what’s been the worst week for me in a long while. All 5 days, none refreshed. Last night wasn’t horrible but it definitely wasn’t good I can tell you that. Still no super strong sleep drive, and again, I was too stubborn to stay up til lord knows what time until it came. Basically the lesson learned here and the lesson everyone can take from me, is don’t ever lie in more than a half an hour on the weekends. Sure they were an amazing two days where I felt amazing, but come the work week and me being forced to wake at my 6am alarm again it all went downhill. I messed up my cycle and I paid for it badly. If I didn’t have to wake until 8am for work every day I can almost guarantee I wouldn’t have insomnia anymore, but this job and this 6am wakeup call is really making it difficult to fully heal.
Just so very sick of coming into work with dark circles under my eyes and so very sick of relying on coffee to push me through the mornings. Not really sure where to turn other than never sleeping past 6:30am max on the weekends ever again. I mean what is it going to have to end up? I can never sleep in on weekends ever again?
Wish Martin would chime in with some two cents for me. Until next time steve… I think this will be my last post for a good few days at least. Not that I’m nearly as bad as I once was, but I don’t think I can get much lower right now.June 21, 2019 at 12:53 pm #30262
Well, I hope you get back on track soon. I can understand about not posting for awhile. I may take a break as well. Keeping up the posts here in a way is counterproductive as it keeps you thinking about the insomnia. Besides, it seems everybody else took a break as well. I need to get back on track too. I am still in Martin’s paid course so I am awaiting his comments on this past week which was awful for me as well. Good luck to you.June 21, 2019 at 12:55 pm #30263
STeve can you give a quick summary of what the last 2 months has been like for you leading up to this last week?June 21, 2019 at 1:18 pm #30264
Well, I have only been in SRT for 6 weeks. Two weeks with an online SRT course called Sleepio and then 4 weeks with Martin’s paid course. The first week was rough as I had to do SC most of the week. The second week I had to do it less. Then I started to get consolidated sleep which was better for me but I was still getting less sleep than before I started SRT. Of course, the sleep I got before I started SRT was very broken and one night I was getting 2 hours and then the next I would get 5. It was all over the board, which is why I say the consolidated sleep was better for me. Two weeks ago, I started to get really good sleep and for the week, I had 4 nights of 5.0 hours, two nights of 4.5 hours and one bad night of 3.5 hours. But this past week I went down hill and I got mostly in the 3 to 4 hour range of sleep. Not surprisingly, I am dead tired and it’s difficult for me to focus and do my work. I was so upbeat after last week that I was starting to plan my life again. At the end of this week, I feel I will never get better. That’s about it in a nutshell. Why do you ask?June 21, 2019 at 1:38 pm #30265
I just like seeing different peoples progress and approaches , etc.
Bad mentality for you to have though, saying you will never get better.
My thing is Steve, I do think it’s possible to get better one day, but not without a constant maintenance in some way shape or form of SRTJune 21, 2019 at 3:37 pm #30266
Steve – I found for myself too that my 5th week was difficult. It’s like we find ourselves slowly and gradually getting better and more hopeful, and then we’re tested with a difficult week. The fears creep in to try to undermine our progress and make us doubt that we’re getting better. Just keep going and it will get better again. It did for me.
Mac – Is there anyway you could adjust your work schedule to come in a couple hours later? You could cite health reasons, which really is what it is. It’s like a medical condition that you need some flexibility in your schedule for awhile so that you can heal. You do better on the weekend when you don’t have to worry about getting up so early. If this was your regular schedule for say, a couple months, maybe over time you would learn to completely relax and the insomnia would go away.June 21, 2019 at 3:51 pm #30267
Thanks for the support Deb. I know these setbacks are normal but they sure are hard. Like I told Mac, at the end of last week, I was very upbeat. I was even thinking of getting a cat again and I joined a dating service. But after a week like this, it’s just rather disappointing. Still, I will persevere and try to remain upbeat. Mac is correct in that I have to start thinking more positively.
How are you doing? Are you still going to sleep when your husband does?June 21, 2019 at 3:53 pm #30268
If it was that easy I probably would have done that YEARS ago Deb. But no, it’s not possible. I have never been a morning person in general and the 6am wakeup call has pretty much always been a problem for me, even before my Insomnia began, though instead of constant bad days post insomnia, it would only be once in a while before it.
I have no doubt at all that it’s the extra early wakeup that has big a huge part of preventing me from overcoming this all. Truth is IMO I never would have had this happen to me if it WEREN’T for having to be up so early. Not sure if you know of my original story but it was a stressful event at work when this all began. I started getting overly anxious about missing the alarm and being late to work, etc. The issues with work eventually went away, but the anxiety remained.
My goal is to one day get a new job where I can sleep til at least let’s say 6:30am. I truly believe even that extra half hour would help me significantly.